# Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 thread \[open spoilers after it airs\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000 "2008-09-24T15:39:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/101 "2008-10-21T14:42:53Z")
At least this episode puts to rest the ridiculous idea that John was all freaked out because he saw his mom being raped. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/102 "2008-10-21T15:57:58Z")
> [@anamnesis](#): > > Say what you will, but I thought the Terminator that got its endoskeleton rearranged by Cameron was smokin’. Guess I’m a sucker for a redhead robot. Apparently, her being twisted into a pretzel wasn’t entirely a visual effect because she’s reportedly an actual contortionist capable of that sort of thing … now why can’t I find out what her _name_ is? [Bonnie Morgan](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0604507/) (evidently uncredited). ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/103 "2008-10-21T16:39:30Z")
Cool, that [chick](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1089338/) from Battlestar Galactica: Razor is on. She’s so tiny and hot. There was a lot of midriff showing in this ep. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/104 "2008-10-21T17:44:23Z")
> [@anamnesis](#): > > Say what you will, but I thought the Terminator that got its endoskeleton rearranged by Cameron was smokin’. Guess I’m a sucker for a redhead robot. Apparently, her being twisted into a pretzel wasn’t entirely a visual effect because she’s reportedly an actual contortionist capable of that sort of thing … now why can’t I find out what her name is? Great fight! There’s no love lost between those two emotionless automatons! > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Who did she know to get this role? She’s not a good enough actor and she’s miscast. I feel bad for her. I don’t think she’s bad. I mean she is playing a robot. Oh and NOW she doesn’t have a sense of humor? “That’s strange…the new AI appears to be capable of witty and ironic one liners. That’s usually a much later stage of development.” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/105 "2008-10-21T19:34:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Who did she know to get this role? She’s not a good enough actor and she’s miscast. I feel bad for her. > [@msmith537](#): > > I don’t think she’s bad. I mean she is playing a robot. I agree. Notice how the robot Weaver was watching the video of the real Catherine Weaver to see how she acted and was able to use that to make Savannah more at ease around her. Manson as the real Weaver seemed a lot less stiff and more natural in the video. The Weaver-bot is learning how to mimic real human relationships. It’s similar to when Cameron’s programming got temporarily messed up and she believed herself to be Allison Young from Palmdale. Summer Glau was able to act in a wholly different manner, since when she’s around the Connors, she doesn’t need to act like a human. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/106 "2008-10-21T21:05:42Z")
Great ep, but I’m a little confused. A new Terminator showed up, killed Crazy Uncle’s girlfriend, and took her persona, right? But doesn’t that mean she was a liquid metal model? If so, Cameron should have had a much harder time making a pretzel out of her right? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/107 "2008-10-21T21:12:46Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Great ep, but I’m a little confused. A new Terminator showed up, killed Crazy Uncle’s girlfriend, and took her persona, right? But doesn’t that mean she was a liquid metal model? If so, Cameron should have had a much harder time making a pretzel out of her right? The new Terminator didn’t change her appearance and wasn’t a liquid-metal model. Of course, how Cameron got the giant pretzel out of the building and all the way back to the Connors’ without being spotted is unclear. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/108 "2008-10-21T21:24:29Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The new Terminator didn’t change her appearance and wasn’t a liquid-metal model. > > Of course, how Cameron got the giant pretzel out of the building and all the way back to the Connors’ without being spotted is unclear. Oh, okay. I confused the girlfriend with the woman whose car the Terminator hijacked. Was that the doctor’s assistant or something? So, John isn’t freaked over seeing his mother kill a man. Wow, that’s rough. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/109 "2008-10-21T22:07:11Z")
I thought this episode was REALLY good. It had a lot of twists and elements that make sense but are not just the obvious tv show cliche… for instance, the idea that some people are going to travel back in time AWOL because of combat fatigue, and the idea that a child psychologist would be useful when an AI was learning. (Now, I’m not saying that actually makes real-world sense, but I definitely get the feeling that there’s a staff of basically smart and creative people who are really thinking about the situations they’ve created and interesting ways they could go…) I definitely liked the therapist character. I hope there’s more of him. ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/110 "2008-10-21T22:23:14Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Oh, okay. I confused the girlfriend with the woman whose car the Terminator hijacked. Was that the doctor’s assistant or something? I think so. But now I’m confused as to why the terminator killed her. Decent episode. I rather enjoyed the two terminators stopping their fight when a family entered the lift, with the redhead moving her fringe around to try and cover up some exposed metal. ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/111 "2008-10-21T22:56:41Z")
> [@Kal](#): > > I think so. But now I’m confused as to why the terminator killed her. The Connors were speculating on either the T-888 was sent to assassinate the therapist or to protect him from something. The therapist briefly mentioned that a temp agency was sending someone to cover for his missing receptionist. That could’ve been a cover that the latest T-888 tried to use to infiltrate his office. ---
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/112 "2008-10-21T22:59:51Z")
> [@Kal](#): > > I think so. But now I’m confused as to why the terminator killed her. So that the Child Psychiatrist had to call a temp agency to get a replacement for the dead secretary. The redhead terminator was meant to be the replacement. ---
**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/113 "2008-10-21T23:41:27Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [Bonnie Morgan](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0604507/) (evidently uncredited). Thank you thank you! The fact that I couldn’t uncover her name was infuriating! How did you find that out? Did you already know who she was? For anyone interested: [a video outtake of Bonnie from Van Wilder](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PReHeyrMsDk) proving that the part where Cameron dislocates Red’s shoulders was not actually a visual effect. Whomever it was that had the idea to cast a contortionist as a Terminator is positively brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/114 "2008-10-21T23:54:01Z")
Righto, cheers for the stuff about a temp agency. Didn’t catch that mentioned while watching. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/115 "2008-10-22T01:37:25Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > And proving what I said, I apparently got confused on the number of episodes ordered. [SF Universe](http://www.sfuniverse.com/2008/10/19/fox-orders-full-season-of-terminator/) confirms there will be a full season run of 22 episodes for the SCC, so disregard my WAG in post #98. I sometimes get in the habit of letting my butt do my talking for me and this was one of those times. :smack: Everyone’s butt talks…but making it type is impressive! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/116 "2008-10-22T03:41:42Z")
I’m finding this season developing much better than last. Loved this episode. As mentioned, it’s clear the writers are really challenging themselves on where and how to take the story and avoid trite pitfalls. I hope it starts to really pick up steam in the viewership. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/117 "2008-10-22T14:06:13Z")
> [@anamnesis](#): > > Thank you thank you! The fact that I couldn’t uncover her name was infuriating! How did you find that out? Did you already know who she was? Quite welcome. Guess my Google-fu is stronger than yours. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/118 "2008-10-22T20:53:53Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Oh, okay. I confused the girlfriend with the woman whose car the Terminator hijacked. Was that the doctor’s assistant or something? > > So, John isn’t freaked over seeing his mother kill a man. Wow, that’s rough. umm… you might want to go back and watch the last few minutes again… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/119 "2008-10-22T21:12:14Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > umm… you might want to go back and watch the last few minutes again… No, I think I said that right. He didn’t see his mother kill a man… because he’s the one who killed the man. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000/120 "2008-10-22T23:43:15Z")
So is the AWOL Girl a terminator now or is she just dead? I think it’s time they invest in a good EMP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-thread-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/465000.md?page=7)