# Terminator VS Data. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 28, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382 "2003-07-28T05:24:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/61 "2013-06-03T18:51:02Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > Data would win\* if he remembered to fight [for the tie](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Strategema). > > \*That is to say, not lose. A tie would mean that both their power sources are exhausted at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/62 "2013-06-03T19:00:24Z")
> [@For You](#): > > A tie would mean that both their power sources are exhausted at the same time? Sure, whatevs. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/63 "2013-06-03T22:36:44Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > So are the T-800’s. You can see terminator schlong in the first movie, before it attacks Bill Paxton and friends. A limp shlong is not “fully functional”. Trust me. ☹ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/64 "2013-06-04T15:23:51Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > The Terminator might be nearly unstoppable, but Data has the more advanced positronic brain, faster reflexes, and comparable endurance/strength. Data can easily avoid the Terminator until he has time to formulate a plan, then carry it out to the exact picosecond needed to win. You people are nuts! 😃 No contest… T-101 would win 100 times out of 100 and do so in embarassing fashion. The gubenators ability to self heal ALONE would make this a one sided fight. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/65 "2013-06-04T15:27:21Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > By definition, any Terminator sent back to eliminate Soong will be opposed by a time-traveler assigned with protecting the target. Who Jean Claude VanDanmmmmmm? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/66 "2013-06-04T16:52:47Z")
I just want to take a moment to say that trying to keep track of the Timey Wimey Gordian’s Knot that is Terminator’s chronology. If the Terminator travels back in time to kill Soong, someone will go back in time to stop him. This is both how Terminator works and how Star Trek works. So the Enterprise travels back in time (or just Spock does) and fights the Terminator. Somewhere along the line Chris Pine will get tossed through a wall by someone (either the Terminator, Spock, or possibly Uhura.) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/67 "2013-06-04T17:00:38Z")
Ripped shirt Wesley/Harry Kim fusion (due to transporter accident) would slay any of them. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/68 "2013-06-04T17:09:23Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I just want to take a moment to say that trying to keep track of the Timey Wimey Gordian’s Knot that is Terminator’s chronology. > > If the Terminator travels back in time to kill Soong, someone will go back in time to stop him. This is both how Terminator works and how Star Trek works. So the Enterprise travels back in time (or just Spock does) and fights the Terminator. Somewhere along the line Chris Pine will get tossed through a wall by someone (either the Terminator, Spock, or possibly Uhura.) Timey Wimey Gordian of Forever Naught sorry… ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/69 "2013-06-04T18:39:43Z")
Captain Archer will set right what once went wrong. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/70 "2013-06-04T18:46:10Z")
I could see Captain Archer and the Terminator hopscotching backward in time until they run up against Slartibartfast. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/71 "2013-06-04T19:54:41Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > If the Terminator travels back in time to kill Soong, someone will go back in time to stop him. This is both how Terminator works and how Star Trek works. So the Enterprise travels back in time (or just Spock does) and fights the Terminator. Somewhere along the line Chris Pine will get tossed through a wall by someone (either the Terminator, Spock, or possibly Uhura.) “It’s LEAVE, you idiot! _‘Make like a tree – and LEAVE!’_ You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong!” ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/72 "2013-06-04T21:37:42Z")
And then a good Terminator will be sent back in time, and will be adopted by a boy played by Anton Yelchin, who will teach him proper slang and the importance of not killing redshirts. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382/73 "2013-06-05T01:03:12Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > A limp shlong is not “fully functional”. > > Trust me. ☹ > > 😉 It’s still more proof than we have for Data. All we have is his and a high as a kite Tasha Yar’s word to go on. For all we know, he just has a telescoping antenna down there. T-800’s on the other hand is real cloned human tissue, so just pop T-800 a few viagra and there ya go, if that’s your thing that is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-vs-data/191382.md?page=3)