# Terr and BrainGlutton **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 3, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406 "2015-10-03T20:59:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/541 "2015-10-11T23:10:29Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > … it seems to me the mods are a little faster to jump on attacks of liberals. > > I can’t prove that, can’t provide cites, and may be generalizing from a single instance in a single thread. But I do remember thinking “gee, I would moderate that as an insult” (directed towards a conservative) and later thinking, “gee, I wouldn’t have moderated that” (directed towards a liberal). Well, here’s a counter-example: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18695651&postcount=89](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18695651&postcount=89) Well-known liberal poster is warned – not mod-noted, but _warned_. For what? For a post that’s been interpreted as _demonizing conservatives_! Yeah, this board is so totally liberal that conservatives are barely allowed to speak here! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/542 "2015-10-11T23:15:59Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > But moderation felt that we had begun to bicker … fine. I acknowledged it with a wee bit of silly. Another poster says something about me. I do not respond as the note was to drop it. > > “ **Bricker** ing” as an insult rather than a small silly riff? Only if you are thinking that “to **Bricker** ” automatically means “to do something bad.” If _you_ think that **Bricker** then I suggest you work on your self-esteem. This is absolutely incorrect. Your statement does not neutrally use “Brickering.” A person with no previous association with the word or my handle here would certainly see that you were suggesting I was acting poorly – there is absolutely zero doubt that the word is read by a neutral observer as pejorative, your current protestations notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/543 "2015-10-11T23:18:23Z")
Correction on number: 517 was the “no more bickering” mod intruction; 518 was the “No more Brickering” comment from DSeid which replied to 517. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/544 "2015-10-11T23:24:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This is absolutely incorrect. Your statement does not neutrally use “Brickering.” A person with no previous association with the word or my handle here would certainly see that you were suggesting I was acting poorly – there is absolutely zero doubt that the word is read by a neutral observer as pejorative, your current protestations notwithstanding. I just took it as a silly little pun… when I argue, I’m bickering, but when **Bricker** argues, you’re “brickering”. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/545 "2015-10-11T23:25:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This is absolutely incorrect. Your statement does not neutrally use “Brickering.” A person with no previous association with the word or my handle here would certainly see that you were suggesting I was acting poorly – there is absolutely zero doubt that the word is read by a neutral observer as pejorative, your current protestations notwithstanding. Like I said, if you want to make a silly riff on his username to play tit-for-tat, go ahead, if that will bring this particular instance to a close. But implying that it wasn’t modded because of bias against conservative posters is beyond ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/546 "2015-10-11T23:29:23Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Like I said, if you want to make a silly riff on his username to play tit-for-tat, go ahead, if that will bring this particular instance to a close. But implying that it wasn’t modded because of bias against conservative posters is beyond ridiculous. No, it’s not. It’s the culture of the board. It’s the expectation that casual swipes against conservatives can go to level 7 before they’re modded and casual swipes against liberals get mod attention when they reach 5, with 5 and 7 being measurements on the Potter Stewart “I know it when I see it” scale of meanness. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/547 "2015-10-11T23:48:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No, it’s not. It’s the culture of the board. It’s the expectation that casual swipes against conservatives can go to level 7 before they’re modded and casual swipes against liberals get mod attention when they reach 5, with 5 and 7 being measurements on the Potter Stewart “I know it when I see it” scale of meanness. That “swipe” in my estimation was somewhere around 0.5. But at this point, I think it’s hopeless discussing it further with you. You’re completely convinced of your position, even though almost no one else seems to have been. (And making silly claims of bias like this one isn’t going to help in the slightest.) It’s clear that nothing I can say (or anyone else) is going to persuade you otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/548 "2015-10-11T23:58:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Nevertheless, it remains a de facto rule that posters must read every post in a thread before responding, so they don’t run afoul of moderator instructions they hadn’t read. > > Therefore, it seems reasonable to me that moderators should resist the urge to jump into a thread stating they are too busy to have read the whole thread, but “let me get my joke in anyway.” It’s not any kind of rule, so I’m not sure why you got that impression. You could always open up a topic and ctrl+F and search “mod” on each page the thread has to see if any mod notes have been given out, that would certainly be faster than reading the whole thread if it’s a long one. Because I can tell you right now, I frequently don’t read all of the posts in threads I mod. I may read the posts around reported posts, or the OP of a thread that has a reported post in it, or even will trace back the exchange that lead up to the reported post to the beginning…but read every single post in the threads? No way. If I’m curious to know if a mod already got to it or took action, however, I’ll do the ctrl F thing above that I suggest now to you. : p ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/549 "2015-10-12T00:50:21Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > …You could always open up a topic and ctrl+F and search “mod” on each page the thread has to see if any mod notes have been given out, that would certainly be faster than reading the whole thread if it’s a long one… Does that work because “moderator” is part of your name, or because moderation will have the syllable “mod” spelled out? (If the former, that would never have occured to me. Okay, I’ll be honest, the idea of searching a thread for moderator comments before posting to it would never have occurred to me. Is that something I ought to do if I show up in a long thread and don’t want to read it all?) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/550 "2015-10-12T01:07:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Correction on number: 517 was the “no more bickering” mod intruction; 518 was the “No more Brickering” comment from DSeid which replied to 517. Wow. I thought you were annoyed that post 516 didn’t get more attention, and I could sort of see where you were coming from. But 518? Really not an issue. Do you have any idea how often people riff off MY username? How often conservatives have made jokes about it? It’s really no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/551 "2015-10-12T01:15:01Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Do you have any idea how often people riff off MY username? How often conservatives have made jokes about it? It’s really no big deal. That’s because you’re a Liberal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/552 "2015-10-12T01:25:06Z")
Did you report the post and indicate you found it insulting? I thought it was a bit of wordplay that required no moderation. If the play on your name was insulting, please report it and explain. It’s not a “Bricker deserves less consideration”, but a “heh, a bit of wordplay”. If you felt it was insulting, don’t keep it to yourself and then be upset no one else saw it your way. Simply point it out and the mods will look at it in a new light. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/553 "2015-10-12T01:41:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No. And it doesn’t for another reason that was previously explained: the accumulation of prior warnings was harsher for Terr than for BG. Can you not accept that two posters can have different individual histories independent of their politics? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/554 "2015-10-12T03:04:25Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > It’s not any kind of rule, so I’m not sure why you got that impression. Haven’t posters been warned for “not following moderator instructions” when they haven’t read the instructions in question? Yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/555 "2015-10-12T03:38:21Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Haven’t posters been warned for “not following moderator instructions” when they haven’t read the instructions in question? > > Yes or no? Your contention was that posters must “read every post in a thread.” We expect posters to look back a reasonable number of posts in a thread. We don’t necessarily expect them to look back hundreds of posts for mod instructions. If you’re aware of a case where someone was warned for not following mod instructions, when they couldn’t have been expected to have seen them, please provide the link. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/556 "2015-10-12T04:04:30Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Haven’t posters been warned for “not following moderator instructions” when they haven’t read the instructions in question? > > Yes or no? I’m relatively new here, but I would have assumed that if that happened, the poster would have said, “oops, sorry, I didn’t read that far back. Won’t do it again” and that would be the end of it. No? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/557 "2015-10-12T04:08:54Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’m relatively new here, but I would have assumed that if that happened, the poster would have said, “oops, sorry, I didn’t read that far back. Won’t do it again” and that would be the end of it. No? We normally do cut posters slack if they missed instructions far back in a very long thread, or if they hadn’t read instructions while they were composing a post. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/558 "2015-10-12T04:20:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Your contention was that posters must “read every post in a thread.” We expect posters to look back a reasonable number of posts in a thread. We don’t necessarily expect them to look back hundreds of posts for mod instructions. > > If you’re aware of a case where someone was warned for not following mod instructions, when they couldn’t have been expected to have seen them, please provide the link. Your own post. > [@](#): > > Colibri10-26-2012, 12:44 PM > But there is one wrong thing in your post that may be why we are still talking about it. > > Yes - ludovic just got a note. > Yes - my warning was for (unintentionally) disobeying a mod instruction. > Yes - “paper towel tube” leads to hijacks and to be honest, SA himself did a much better job than you and Marley put together to explain why this is so. > No - It was not a snipe at SA. It was participating in a SD meme and IMO less offensive than if I were to write something ultra commie liberal and sign it > > Regards, > Saint Cad > > **Boo hoo. Next time read the thread.** It was only 10 posts when you posted to it. You have no excuse for not seeing it. > > Your other two warnings, although for different offenses, were also basically because you post first and think about if afterwards. Next time you post in GQ, don’t post the first thing that pops into your head. Why doesn’t “read the thread” apply to Moderators? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/559 "2015-10-12T06:09:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I have offered solutions which he has rejected as insufficiently probative. I’m now asking him what he would accept. > > My wife and and play a variant of this game all the time: > > BRICKER: Where do you want to eat dinner? > > MRS BRICKER: Oh, anywhere is fine. > > BRICKER: Great! How about Mexican? > > MRS B: Um… nah, I’m not in the mood for Mexican. > > BRICKER: OK. Steaks? Outback? > > MRS B: That’s too expensive. > > BRICKER: Thai? Chinese? Sushi? > > MRS B: Um… no, nothing Asian. > > BRICKER: OK, so where do you want to go? > > MRS B: I don’t know. Wherever you want. Italian? This sounds oddly reminiscent of a conversation my family would regularly hold when I was a kid. One night my mother got fed up with the exercise and took us to the High’s Dairy Store, where we all got our favourite flavour of ice cream in a half gallon carton. That was dinner that night. And desserts for a lot of nights afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406/560 "2015-10-12T08:28:01Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Did you report the post and indicate you found it insulting? I thought it was a bit of wordplay that required no moderation. If the play on your name was insulting, please report it and explain. It’s not a “Bricker deserves less consideration”, but a “heh, a bit of wordplay”. If you felt it was insulting, don’t keep it to yourself and then be upset no one else saw it your way. Simply point it out and the mods will look at it in a new light. I guess if I had reported it the reaction would have been different. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terr-and-brainglutton/733406.md?page=29)