# Terriffic. Now I have to feel guilty about chocolate too. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501 "2008-10-31T22:16:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/1 "2008-10-31T22:16:31Z")
I was recently googling “chocolate” and “slave” (don’t ask) only to discover that now we have to make sure our chocolate and cocoa don’t come from slave\* cultivated cocoa. Just in time for Halloween too. :mad: \*in the sense of abusive child labor from minors, whose parents often sold their labor and/or custody of them. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/2 "2008-10-31T23:43:05Z")
This is why I only eat white chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/3 "2008-10-31T23:48:56Z")
Heck, I go out of my way to eat whale blubber covered in chocolate-dipped conflict diamonds off ivory plates. Fuck you, morality! ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/4 "2008-10-31T23:52:54Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > This is why I only eat white chocolate. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/5 "2008-10-31T23:54:49Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > I laughed. 27 views, one chuckle. I’ll take that. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/6 "2008-11-01T00:04:32Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > 27 views, one chuckle. I’ll take that. Oh. Was that a joke? White chocolate doesn’t have cocoa so it’s not really chocolate and therefore isn’t involved with this. That’s what I thought you meant. I didn’t realize that you were trying to make a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/7 "2008-11-01T00:10:52Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Oh. Was that a joke? White chocolate doesn’t have cocoa so it’s not really chocolate and therefore isn’t involved with this. That’s what I thought you meant. I didn’t realize that you were trying to make a joke. Burst my other bubbles too, why don’t you? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/8 "2008-11-01T00:35:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Burst my other bubbles too, why don’t you? :mad: I outsource all my bubble-bursting to 5-year-old Chinese amputees. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/9 "2008-11-01T00:40:25Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I outsource all my bubble-bursting to 5-year-old Chinese amputees. But what do they burst the bubbles with? ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/10 "2008-11-01T00:54:52Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Oh. Was that a joke? White chocolate doesn’t have cocoa so it’s not really chocolate and therefore isn’t involved with this. That’s what I thought you meant. I didn’t realize that you were trying to make a joke. It has cocoa butter. Unless it’s the real shitty white chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/11 "2008-11-01T01:03:42Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > But what do they burst the bubbles with? Slave cultivated cocoa beans. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/12 "2008-11-01T01:06:29Z")
You can look at it this way: whether or not _you_ personally eat that chocolate or not, those slaves are still going to be picking the cocoa, and if not they’ll be doing something else equally crappy. So you might as well enjoy the chocolate, nothing you can do about it. I suddenly have a huge urge for that Chia…something chocolate. You know, the one with the caramel in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/13 "2008-11-01T01:35:24Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > I suddenly have a huge urge for that Chia…something chocolate. Tip: do not eat any chocolate that has green hair growing on it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/14 "2008-11-01T01:41:51Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Tip: do not eat any chocolate that has green hair growing on it. > [@](#): > > Tip: do not eat anything that has green hair growing on it. Fixed it for you. ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/15 "2008-11-01T01:43:14Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > You can look at it this way: whether or not _you_ personally eat that chocolate or not, those slaves are still going to be picking the cocoa, and if not they’ll be doing something else equally crappy. > > So you might as well enjoy the chocolate, nothing you can do about it. Sure there is. You buy [fair trade goods](http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/products/retail_products/default.aspx). If enough people buy fair trade then companies will have to cater to their consumer’s wishes. Fair trade is a growing market here (or it was till the credit crunch struck), so saying there’s nothing you can do is just plain wrong. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/16 "2008-11-01T02:12:04Z")
If you lick said chocolate off your lover, it will do wonders to assuage your guilt. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/17 "2008-11-01T02:37:44Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Burst my other bubbles too, why don’t you? :mad: Oops, sorry. . .not my intention. > [@wolfman](#): > > It has cocoa butter. > > Unless it’s the real shitty white chocolate. Ah, interesting. Thanks for pointing this out. I can’t eat chocolate because it gives me a migraine. But I think I can eat white chocolate without a problem. I thought it was the lack of cocoa that made the difference and maybe I was indeed eating the inferior stuff. But I think there may be another compound in dark chocolate that makes the difference as well. But [this](http://ask.yahoo.com/20030106.html) confirms what you were saying: > [@](#): > > Because white chocolate has no cocoa solids from the chocolate liquor, the FDA doesn’t classify it as chocolate. However, the organization is working with chocolate manufacturers to establish a standard definition for white chocolate. Until a standard is published, check labels and beware of “white chocolate” that contains vegetable fat instead of cocoa butter. The quality and taste are inferior. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Fixed it for you. 😃 This I like. To the OP: I try not to be a spelling nazi, but that spelling in the title is grating like nails on a chalkboard. Too late to change it now, but please consider spell check next time. Thanks. Oh, and as to the OP, I do my part in cutting down on chocolate consumption because I can’t eat it anyway, so yay, one less thing to feel guilty about. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/18 "2008-11-01T03:34:51Z")
> [@chacoguy420](#): > > If you lick said chocolate off your lover, it will do wonders to assuage your guilt. Alternatively, you can lick said chocolate off someone else’s lover and experience a different kind of guilt. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/19 "2008-11-01T07:57:10Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > You can look at it this way: whether or not _you_ personally eat that chocolate or not, those slaves are still going to be picking the cocoa, and if not they’ll be doing something else equally crappy. > > So you might as well enjoy the chocolate, nothing you can do about it. Ah, the free market at work. Slavery’s OK, if it makes someone, somewhere a profit. I’ve had people on this board ask “Why do you think that people who disagree with you are evil ?” Well, supporting slavery is one reason why. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501/20 "2008-11-01T14:22:06Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I’ve had people on this board ask “Why do you think that people who disagree with you are evil ?” Well, supporting slavery is one reason why. I’d just assumed it was some character flaw on your part, actually. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terriffic-now-i-have-to-feel-guilty-about-chocolate-too/470501.md?page=2)