# Terrorist scum, FUCK OFF!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153 "2018-09-11T04:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/41 "2018-09-11T17:56:52Z")

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Oh hey, **derekmichaels00** , welcome back!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/42 "2018-09-11T18:22:34Z")

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> [@Mumberthax](#):
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> You can’t ‘identify’ your way out of your chromosomes, and words mean things.
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> Put it this way: I’m anorexic; I identify as morbidly obese. Or, try this one: I’m schizophrenic; I identify as George Washington. See the problem? Just because you ‘identify’ a certain way doesn’t make it real.

A moment’s consideration shows how utterly idiotic, inconsistent and bigoted this position is.

Do you deny the objective reality of _all_ mental states? Given the current state of neuroscience, what physical evidence is there that you are, for example, happy or sad? Sure, you might sometimes lie about whether you are happy, but that doesn’t mean that happiness isn’t a real state, with an ultimate physical basis in the firing pattern of neurons.

So you, like everyone, do believe that mental states do have objective reality. And you have no scientific basis for asserting that everyone is cis, that the correlation between gender identity and physical sexual characteristics is 100%. You are essentially just accusing all trans people of lying about their mental state.

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**Author:** ![HamptonsLax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@HamptonsLax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HamptonsLax)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/43 "2018-09-11T19:14:27Z")

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fact is that its bc of Muslim jihad that governments all around the world spend billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of man-hours fighting. Not the case with muh KKK, white nationalists, etc.

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**Author:** ![HamptonsLax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@HamptonsLax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HamptonsLax)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/44 "2018-09-11T19:15:48Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=861482](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=861482)
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> You told us in this thread that you think trans women are not real women. And that you are worried that you might inadvertently have sex with a trans woman who didn’t identify herself to you according to her chromosomes, because you equate that to rape.
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> So this new thread is confusing, now you’re _against_ narrow-minded bigoted assholery?

So you’re basically saying that if one cares what genitals a sexual partner has, he’s “bigoted?”

This is why people are engaging in #WalkAway

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/45 "2018-09-11T20:34:21Z")

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> [@HamptonsLax](#):
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> So you’re basically saying that if one cares what genitals a sexual partner has, he’s “bigoted?”

No, I’m not basically saying that. Nor do I think that same sex marriage rights means forcing everyone to get same sex married. But it’s a fairly easy call now that _you_ fall in to the bigoted transphobe camp along with Mumblepants. Thanks for letting us know.

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/46 "2018-09-11T20:54:28Z")

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> [@HamptonsLax](#):
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> This is why people are engaging in #WalkAway

If this world was really fair, Comrade HamptonsLax’s pants would spontaneously light on fire right after posting a steaming pile of bullshit that big. Sadly, it is not.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/47 "2018-09-11T20:56:18Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Bold stance.

It is kind of bold. I don’t know about Mumber, but most of us on the Dope are in a country founded by terrorists…er noble revolutionaries.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/48 "2018-09-11T20:57:42Z")

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> [@HamptonsLax](#):
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> So you’re basically saying that if one cares what genitals a sexual partner has, he’s “bigoted?”
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> This is why people are engaging in #WalkAway

No it isn’t, because that’s a fake astroturf movement.

Also, if you’re so worried about being fooled by a transgender person, what’s up with that? I thought gender was immutable? So how can you be confused about whether a person is a man or a woman? Shouldn’t you be able to tell instantly?

Also, what are the acts of terrorism that antifa has committed? How many people have they killed?

Also, last night I had sex with my wife. But she didn’t get pregnant, because I am biologically incapable of fathering a child. So would it be fair to say that I’m not really a man?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/49 "2018-09-11T21:18:32Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Oh, I dunno.
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> Those suicide bomb belts can be slimming.

Reminds me of the cartoon about suicide bombers’ training camp. The instruction tells the class: \*Now watch closely, because I"m only going to demonstrate this once. \*

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/50 "2018-09-11T21:27:56Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh hey, **derekmichaels00** , welcome back!

I don’t know… there may be more than one transphobic bigoted asshole in this world. But it’s certainly possible.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/51 "2018-09-11T21:36:53Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> No it isn’t, because that’s a fake astroturf movement.

What would be real astrotuf? 😉

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/52 "2018-09-11T22:03:22Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> What would be real astrotuf? 😉

The only real AstroTurf©, is AstroTurf© branded synthetic turf. There may be other brands of synthetic turf, but they’re fake AstroTurf©, not real AstroTurf©.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/53 "2018-09-12T02:34:42Z")

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> [@HamptonsLax](#):
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> So you’re basically saying that if one cares what genitals a sexual partner has, he’s “bigoted?”
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> This is why people are engaging in #WalkAway

Walk Away is a phony trope set up by the right.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/54 "2018-09-12T16:58:37Z")

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Escalated projection. So many of them are running away, they want folks on the other side to walk away.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/55 "2018-09-12T17:10:55Z")

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Well, one problem with a robust hatred of all kinds of terrorism is that terrorism has subjective definitions.

Myanmar calls anyone expressing sympathy for the Rohingya “terrorist.”

China calls a woman defacing a poster “terrorist.”

In the United States, the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act defines any action that causes an animal-exploiting corporation to claim it might lose money “terrorist,” including explicitly defining speech formerly protected by the First Amendment as “intimidation” and allowing it to be used to establish conspiracy.

If I urge you not to eat red meat, even if I am a medical professional, I can be prosecuted in America _as a terrorist_ – this is the intent of the law, not merely an exaggeration of possible consequences.

Still against all “terrorism?”

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**Author:** ![Mumberthax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@Mumberthax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mumberthax)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/56 "2018-09-13T05:29:44Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> No, I’m not basically saying that. Nor do I think that same sex marriage rights means forcing everyone to get same sex married. But it’s a fairly easy call now that _you_ fall in to the bigoted transphobe camp along with Mumblepants. Thanks for letting us know.

Yanno what’s so fucking precious about this post? Old Riemann lectures me about respecting identities, then he turns around and rips me as ‘Mumblepants’, of all things. Hypocritical much? Damn.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/57 "2018-09-13T13:46:14Z")

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> [@Mumberthax](#):
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> Yanno what’s so fucking precious about this post? Old Riemann lectures me about respecting identities, then he turns around and rips me as ‘Mumblepants’, of all things. Hypocritical much? Damn.

You _could_ try not being stupid. I mean, worth a shot.

Also, your sig is factually incorrect. And stupid.

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**Author:** ![Mumberthax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@Mumberthax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mumberthax)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/58 "2018-09-13T14:31:25Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> You _could_ try not being stupid. I mean, worth a shot.
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> Also, your sig is factually incorrect. And stupid.

It identifies as accurate. Deal with it or be a bigot. 😃

Besides, it’s just true. There’s a whole world that exists outside your mind. Try encountering it sometime. I think you’ll be surprised at what you’ll find.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/59 "2018-09-13T14:32:41Z")

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Quick reminder: we’re the ones who push the facts about transgenderism. You’re the one who denies reality.

And fuck off with trying to pretend that calling you a rude name is anything at all like your attempts to cause gender dysphoria and harm trans people.

Garbage people don’t get to demand we treat them with respect.

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**Author:** ![Mumberthax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@Mumberthax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mumberthax)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrorist-scum-fuck-off/821153/60 "2018-09-13T14:58:42Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Quick reminder: we’re the ones who push the facts about transgenderism. You’re the one who denies reality.
> 
> And fuck off with trying to pretend that calling you a rude name is anything at all like your attempts to cause gender dysphoria and harm trans people.
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> Garbage people don’t get to demand we treat them with respect.

Have a nice life, unless you’ve made other plans.

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