# Terry Pratchett OKs Night Watch TV Series

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [March 19, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280 "2011-03-19T20:40:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/61 "2011-06-04T00:20:21Z")

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For Nobbs; How about the guy who played the Dreamlord in a recent Doctor Who. He’s short and pulls off the happy and creepy look pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/62 "2011-06-04T01:22:22Z")

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I can’t see Titus Pullo as Vimes. He’s too big. I always picture Vimes as underfed and wiry.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/63 "2011-06-04T03:37:20Z")

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Well, we’ve definitely found [Fifi.](http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/062011/small_not%20lost.jpg)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/64 "2011-06-04T03:50:41Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> For Nobbs; How about the guy who played the Dreamlord in a recent Doctor Who. He’s short and pulls off the happy and creepy look pretty well.

That’s Toby Jones. He’s become something of a minor star lately with his version of Truman Capote being somewhat more accurate than Philip Seymour Hoffman’s.

I wrote [a blog post](http://guanolad.blogspot.com/2011/04/casting-ankh-morpork-city-watch.html) listing a few possibles that I could see as the characters, including:

Vimes: Jack Dee, Danny Webb, Ben Miller.  
Carrot: Rupert Grint, Tom Hopper, and a commenter suggested Sam Roukin.  
Nobby: Dominic Monaghan, Andy Serkis, Adam Buxton.

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**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/65 "2011-06-06T08:50:25Z")

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Ray Stevenson… Great in Rome and a good all round actor - but for Vimes - no chance - maybe Carrot but… although he has the build for Carrot but not the face - Carrot needs an open and honestly naive.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/66 "2011-06-07T00:51:03Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> Well, we’ve definitely found [Fifi.](http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/062011/small_not%20lost.jpg)

😕

You mean Big Fido, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/67 "2011-06-07T01:33:40Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> 😕
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> You mean Big Fido, maybe?

Um…yah. :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

He can eat my face off in Hell for that if he likes. 😛

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/68 "2011-06-07T01:34:50Z")

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I saw the Rupert Grint nom for Carrot and thought 'nah, too young, and why? just ‘cause he’s a redhead?’ and then went to the movie database and looked at more pictures and such…  
I do believe he could do a really good job! I’m surprised.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/69 "2011-06-07T18:49:12Z")

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If there’s a great actor with the wrong hair he/she can always wear a wig.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/70 "2011-06-07T22:14:38Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Carrot is supposed to be like a redheaded Captain Awesome (from _Chuck_). Broad shouldered, narrow hips, i.e. shaped like a carrot.

Brendan Fraser, maybe?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/71 "2011-06-07T22:17:05Z")

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Vetinari – Alan Rickman? John Hurt? Jeremy Irons? Has to be someone who can combine aristocratic aplomb with bottomless cynicism.

Since this is a time-travel story – **young** Vetinari (the Assassins’ School boy) poses an even greater challenge.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/72 "2011-06-07T22:18:44Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Brendan Fraser, maybe?

This! This could definitely work!  
Carrot’s supposed to be actually fairly young, but I think Fraser’s got enough of a babyface to carry it off anyway.  
He’d be great!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/73 "2011-06-07T22:45:25Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Vetinari – Alan Rickman? John Hurt? Jeremy Irons? Has to be someone who can combine aristocratic aplomb with bottomless cynicism.

But it also must be someone who can do the eyebrow trick better than The Rock.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/74 "2011-06-07T22:52:11Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Brendan Fraser, maybe?

Why the holy hell do people keep bringing Brendan Fraser into this? Point one, he’s not British. Point two, he’s nearly 50. Point three, he’s not a redhead. And point four, you couldn’t be more off the mark in terms of character (Bill Campbell is way closer, and he’s wrong for it too).

Americans have this one track mind on Brendan effing Fraser playing Carrot, and I’m so totally over it.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/75 "2011-06-08T06:00:18Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Why the holy hell do people keep bringing Brendan Fraser into this? Point one, he’s not British. Point two, he’s nearly 50. Point three, he’s not a redhead. And point four, you couldn’t be more off the mark in terms of character (Bill Campbell is way closer, and he’s wrong for it too).
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> Americans have this one track mind on Brendan effing Fraser playing Carrot, and I’m so totally over it.

If it makes you feel better, I’m American and I think Brendan Fraser is completely wrong for all the same reasons you mentioned.

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**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/76 "2019-09-11T14:39:42Z")

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Reviving my own thread from…holy, crap! Over eight years ago!?!..because there have been actors cast.

[Story here](https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/richard-dormer-leads-watch-cast/)

I only know Richard Dormer from “Game of Thrones,” but I think that seems like a really good match. He’s got the weathered, weary face I’ve always pictured on Vimes, and I loved his gravelly, hinting-at-menace voice.

I do not know any of the other actors, so can’t make many meaningful comments. The woman cast as Angua has a very interesting, beautiful, angular face, which would seem to work well. The gentleman cast as Carrot seems appropriately boyish and earnest in affect.

The woman they’ve cast as Sybil is much less…physically substantial…than she is described in the books, but as long as she can capture her spirit and attitude, that’s the really important thing to me.

I continue to be cautiously optimistic.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/77 "2019-09-11T16:45:23Z")

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> [@carlb](#):
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> I do not know any of the other actors, so can’t make many meaningful comments. The woman cast as Angua has a very interesting, beautiful, angular face, which would seem to work well. The gentleman cast as Carrot seems appropriately boyish and earnest in affect.
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> The woman they’ve cast as Sybil is much less…physically substantial…than she is described in the books, but as long as she can capture her spirit and attitude, that’s the really important thing to me.
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> I continue to be cautiously optimistic.

Agreed on all fronts. The cast is mostly unknowns-ish, which I prefer, and they mostly seem like excellent casting based on looks.

Sybill is definitely the odd one out. Fit, young, and hot just isn’t how I’d ever picture Sybill. Her plainness and robustness are part of what make her relationship with Vimes so charming. But I’ll certainly give her a chance; there’s plenty of ways they could interpret the character that still honor the original. I don’t expect this series to be purely faithful, I just want it to take the best inspirations.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/78 "2019-09-11T18:25:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Wow. That’s…not good news at all. They will surely fuck it up in a myriad of ways.

I stand by my original comment from 8 years ago.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/79 "2019-09-11T18:30:12Z")

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Wow, Dormer’s a teriffic choice! I’m excited about this.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terry-pratchett-oks-night-watch-tv-series/575280/80 "2019-09-11T18:44:42Z")

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The announcement on [Cinema Blend](https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2479518/game-of-thrones-richard-dormer-set-to-lead-another-giant-fantasy-tv-show) makes it sound absolutely dreadful.

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