# Terrytoons **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [September 22, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246 "2020-09-22T17:02:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/21 "2020-09-23T18:08:50Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > In fact, the ghost walrus in _Minnie the Moocher_ is rotoscoped from Cab Calloway’s performance. As is Koko in _Snow White_ above. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/22 "2020-09-23T18:42:09Z")
> [@teelabrown](#): > > There are hundreds of Terrytoons out there. Paul Terry started in the 1920s, making silent black and white cartoons When I was a kid in the 1950s, Terry’s Farmer Al Falfa (then known as Farmer Gray) cartoons were a staple for TV stations looking for cheap content for kids. [_The Mouse’s Bride_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fknb6Xynz10) is rather poignant. I especially like the duck butler. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/23 "2020-09-23T19:17:00Z")
Quite right. I remember seeing that cartoon for the first time and being impressed that it was Louis Armstrong (who was still alive at the time). not only did the Fleischers invent the Rotoscope, they also invented a process of using 3D backgrounds, which were molded out of clay and plaster and rotated on a turntable. they had a clear frame to hold the animation cels in front. In its way, it was like Ub Iwerks’ “Multiplane” camera, only with a literally 3D background. They used it in their big-budget 2-reeler color Popeye cartoons Look at Popeye meets Sinbad at 6 minutes in. Notice how the shadows change on the background and the perspective changes. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QIwUpvf2jXY/maxresdefault.jpg "POPEYE THE SAILOR MAN: Meets Sindbad the Sailor (1936) (Remastered) (HD 1080p) | Jack Mercer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIwUpvf2jXY) or Sinbad meets Ali Baba at 3 minutes in (where it’s the foreground that changes) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/miw_Jw7j2sE/maxresdefault.jpg "POPEYE THE SAILOR MAN: Meets Ali Baba's Forty Thieves (1937) (Remastered) (HD 1080p) | Jack Mercer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miw_Jw7j2sE) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/24 "2020-09-23T20:14:23Z")
> [@teelabrown](#): > > I can’t remember what show I must have watched in the early 60s. I know there was a Mighty Mouse show - was there a Heckle and Jeckle show too? There was [The Heckle and Jeckle Cartoon Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i04_J1rz5-I), aka [The Heckle and Jeckle Show](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220902/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast). I watched this as a little kid, under the age of 6 or so, but had no idea it continued until 1971. It wasn’t one of my favorite cartoons but maybe I was too young for it. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/25 "2020-09-23T21:33:41Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > They used it in their big-budget 2-reeler color Popeye cartoons I used to watch Popeye cartoons on WPIX in New York, [hosted by “Captain” Jack McCarthy](http://www.tvparty.com/lostpopeye7.html). I used to look forward to when they would show Sindbad the Sailor, but I think what I saw was the [re-cut shorter version,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m333Fssm1rA) and not the original. I could tell the animation looked strange, but didn’t know why. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/26 "2020-09-23T23:30:08Z")
I vaguely remember the Captain. Was he PIX or WOR? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/27 "2020-09-24T00:23:46Z")
Me, too! I remember Jack McCarthy, and Sandy Becker, and Sonny Fox, and Chuck McCann (when he was still a kid show host) and Claude Kirshner (and Clowny!) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/28 "2020-09-24T02:23:13Z")
I had Bob McAllister for Wonderama, that was what Sonny Fox was known for right? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/29 "2020-09-24T02:52:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Me, too! I remember Jack McCarthy, and Sandy Becker, and Sonny Fox, and Chuck McCann (when he was still a kid show host) and Claude Kirshner (and Clowny!) I remember all those. Also Officer Joe Bolton for the Three Stooges. Sandy Becker was my favorite. He was the zaniest of them all, with characters like K. Lastima (the first Spanish pun I learned), Norton Nork, and [Hambone,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6uuIJTkDHk) and puppets like [Geeba Geeba (left).](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/c8/41/11c841f9c221b9328518d2c7344a7cd4.jpg) Sonny Fox wasn’t my favorite, but I did meet him once, at an event on the SS United States (the largest cruise ship at the time) when it was docked on the West Side. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/30 "2020-09-24T03:00:11Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I had Bob McAllister for Wonderama, that was what Sonny Fox was known for right? Sonny Fox hosted Wonderama 1959-1967, when McAllister replaced him. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/31 "2020-09-24T03:08:05Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Claude Kirshner (and Clowny!) Aptly enough for the thread, [Claude Kirchner hosted _Terrytoon Circus_](http://www.tvparty.com/lostny2scrub.html) on WOR in New York from 1956-1962. Kirchner was OK, but Clownie creeped me the hell out. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/32 "2020-09-24T03:15:17Z")
Since I knew Sonny Fox for _Wonderama_ (and for _Just for Fun_, the game show for kids he hosted on Saturdays), I was very surprised to learn much later on that he had been the sometime host of _The $64,000 Challenge,_ one of the shows involved in the Quiz Show Scandal of the 1950s. Fox wasn’t tarred by that scandal, though, because he wasn’t hosting very often. Bonus fact – Sonny Fox is still around! > **[Sonny Fox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Fox)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Irwin "Sonny" Fox (June 17, 1925 – January 24, 2021) was an American television host and broadcaster who was the host of the children's television program, Wonderama. Through his career, he had hosted other children's educational and entertainment shows including Let's Take a Trip, Just for Fun and On Your Mark, in addition to family shows including The $64,000 show. Fox was also a producer of movies including And Baby Makes Six, Mysterious Two ... ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/33 "2020-09-24T03:40:36Z")
Am I unique in having watched _ **Wonderama** _ on Sunday mornings while I was in high school? I loved the guest stars Bob McAllister had on and the topics they discussed! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/akMucPDNjos/hqdefault.jpg "Kids Are People Too Theme for Bob Mcallister Wonderama 70's TV") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMucPDNjos) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/34 "2020-09-24T12:08:57Z")
In High School? I doubt it is unique, but it does seem odd. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/35 "2020-09-24T12:20:27Z")
Yep, in high school. A lot of the material was geared to a teenage audience, it seemed to me. One episode that sticks in my mind is when Bob had LeRoy Neiman, the _ **Playboy** _ artist, on as a guest. He talked about art in general and his own distinctive style in particular. Neiman also sketched the other guest that day, a champion fencer who talked about the sport, as he was going through some exercises for the audience. Say what you want about the show, but 17-year-old me found it pretty interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/36 "2020-09-24T12:45:01Z")
I remember watching H&J in the Chicago area, Sat a.m.s in 60s. I THINK at 7:30 (had my regular line-up thru 9, when mom made me turn off the TV. Starting at 630, the only thing on was old Superman live action…) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/37 "2020-09-24T13:12:49Z")
The 4-hour marathon that was Wonderama with Sonny Fox in the 1960s was amazing, and a big chunk of my childhood. I saw tons of Warner Brothers cartoons, Flash Gordon serials, and other such stuff, along with games and performers. It was on Wonderama that I first saw James (The Amazing) Randi, who was mainly a magician and Houdini-style escape artist. He was a frequent guuest, and I was really surprised years later in college when I encountered his writings as a Skeptic, first taking on “psychic” Uri Geller. The theme music for Wonderama, it took me a long time to learn, was the overture to **The Unsinkable Molly Brown** Bob Mcallister was a very different kind of host, with his own songs (“Kids are People, too!”). But by then I was older and not as interested. Although I might stick around because right after Wonderara they WNEX ran _Eastside Comedy_, which ran the old Bowery Boys movies from Monogram. ---
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/38 "2020-09-24T13:44:47Z")
I remember watching H&J as a kid, but when watching a little of the clip the OP posted I was surprised by the accents H&J had. I don’t remember them sounding like that. Does anyone remember the cartoons where the characters were Hollywood stars (from the 40s) with giant heads? IIRC they seemed to be at fancy Hollywood restaurant. It might have only been one cartoon that I saw numerous times. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/39 "2020-09-24T13:48:48Z")
There was a Bugs Barney cartoon like that. Elmer was a waiter and most of the stars of the day had cartoon versions of themselves in the cartoon. Slick Hare 1947 > **[Bugs Bunny - Slick Hare (1947) - video Dailymotion](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vjyba)** > > Bugs Bunny - Slick Hare (1947) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246/40 "2020-09-24T13:58:56Z")
There were a lot of Warner Brothers cartoons like that. Besides the one _What\_Exit_ mentions, there’s 1941’s _Hollywood Steps Out_ > **[Hollywood Steps Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Steps_Out)** > > Hollywood Steps Out is a 1941 short Merrie Melodies cartoon by Warner Bros., directed by Tex Avery. The short was released on May 24, 1941. > The cartoon features caricatures of over 40 Hollywood celebrities. > A bird's-eye view of Los Angeles is shown with searchlights moving to a conga beat. The action takes place in the famed Ciro's nightclub, where the Hollywood stars are having dinner at $50 (equivalent to $921 in 2021) a plate and "easy terms". > The first stars seen are Claudette Colbert, Don... [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xOFG_qmoH8I/maxresdefault.jpg "LOONEY TUNES (Looney Toons): Hollywood Steps Out (1941) (Remastered) (Ultra HD 4K) | Kent Rogers") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOFG_qmoH8I) I know there were others in the 1930s [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terrytoons/921246.md?page=3)