# Tesla Cybertruck

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 23, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866 "2019-11-23T10:32:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1141 "2024-06-17T23:05:28Z")

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If I have any comment on CT wipers it’s that the single-wiper design is pitifully inadequate in terms of coverage on the vast windshield.

That vehicle desperately needs a second wiper for the WAG 40% of windshield area on the passenger side that’s untouched by the single wiper, mongo as it is.

Inscribing an arc of a single circle on a rectangle leaves room around the edges; who knew?

_That_ is such an inexplicable decision it almost had to be driven by some sort of stylistic hubris. I’m actually a bit surprised NHTSA allowed it. Almost certainly a matter of the limits on their regulatory authority to object than any agreement that the design was adequate.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1142 "2024-06-17T23:14:12Z")

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I’m not about to do the trigonometry, but recall that the upper portion of the windshield is basically unusable. A quarter arc may only cover 78% of the total area, but if the upper 1/3 isn’t usable anyway, that increases to probably \>90%. The upper tip of the blade is probably far above where it would be on another vehicle. The axis for the sunvisor usually has headliner above it on a normal car, but on the Cybertruck it’s glass there and up a ways farther yet.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1143 "2024-06-17T23:20:34Z")

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Mercedes had a monowiper back in the 80s:  
[![](http://www.spannerhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Mercedes_Monoblade_3.jpg) ](http://www.spannerhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Mercedes_Monoblade_3.jpg)

Apparently that was acceptable. But much worse than the Cybertruck, because it impeded visibility on both passenger _and_ driver’s side. Though it did have some mechanism that increased coverage from 78% to 86%. It wasn’t a pure circular arc.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1144 "2024-06-17T23:24:00Z")

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Video below. It appears that the coverage is pretty good.

https:// [www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJETvuq6-Q](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJETvuq6-Q)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1145 "2024-06-17T23:32:09Z")

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Found this article:

> **[Have you looked at your windshield wipers lately?](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/02/have-you-looked-at-your-windshield-wipers-lately/)**
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> Little-noted engineering niche is driven by regulations, aerodynamics, practicality.

The requirements come from this diagram:  
[![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/576/32122722270_72f055404f_c.jpg) ](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/576/32122722270_72f055404f_c.jpg)  
With:

> Area C is the region directly in the driver’s line of sight. It must receive at least 99 percent wiper coverage.  
> Area B is a larger area that includes Area C and a corresponding region on the passenger side. It must receive at least 94 percent wiper coverage.  
> Area A is a still larger region that encompasses most of the windshield. It must receive at least 80 percent wiper coverage.

Just eyeballing it, it looks like the Cybertruck probably achieves 100% coverage on all three areas. It doesn’t seem very strict.

ETA: Now this is some poor coverage! The wiper patterns don’t even overlap in the middle. And yet apparently still legal:  
[![](https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/hummer-h1-1440x960.jpg) ](https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/hummer-h1-1440x960.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1146 "2024-06-25T12:40:45Z")

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> **[RCLRPT-24V456-3775.PDF](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RCLRPT-24V456-3775.PDF)**
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Here is the wiper recall report on the NHTSA website. Looks like almost 12,000 cybertrucks had been produced when it was issued.

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1147 "2024-06-25T15:17:38Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That vehicle desperately needs a second wiper for the WAG 40% of windshield area on the passenger side that’s untouched by the single wiper

Mercedes solved this in the 80’s with their mono wiper design, using a single articulated arm that covered most of the windscreen – corners included. There is no reason Tesla could not have used a similar design.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> stylistic hubris

Except, of course, for that.

Edit:

> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> Mercedes had a monowiper back in the 80s:

I _really_ need to learn to read the entire thread before posting.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1148 "2024-06-25T15:42:48Z")

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> [@Lancia](#):
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> I _really_ need to learn to read the entire thread before posting.

In a car thread a guy naned **Lancia** can be forgiven a little haste and enthusiasm. Always in a rush to get to the end of the course ahead of all others. 😉

  

Unrelated to the above …  
In a recent non-car thread a very much non-car-enthusiast woman reported seeing her first Cybertruck in the wild. I know we’ve done adverse reactions to the styling unto death, but I thought she expressed her opinion cleverly:

> It looked like a 1967 Star Trek TOS shuttlecraft as rendered in metal shop by my middle school friends.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1149 "2024-06-25T15:53:54Z")

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Did you see the video I linked a couple of posts up? The coverage is fine

http:// [www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJETvuq6-Q](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJETvuq6-Q)

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1150 "2024-06-29T23:58:42Z")

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There are now of course knock-off Cybertoys on the market. This one is going to give Elon ideas for a Cybertrailer and Cyberatv.

> **[Amazon.com: 1/32 Pickup Trailer RV Model Kit, Off-Road Vehicle Alloy,Car Model...](https://www.amazon.com/Trailer-Off-Road-Vehicle-Diecast-Simulation/dp/B0CKHMPSNB)**
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> Amazon.com: 1/32 Pickup Trailer RV Model Kit, Off-Road Vehicle Alloy,Car Model Diecast Metal Toy,Truck Model Simulation Sound Light,Gifts for boy Girl. (with RV Silver) : Toys & Games

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1151 "2024-06-30T08:19:21Z")

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I didn’t realize the truck had an “A” pillar with a small window. I wonder if that blocks the side views. I drove a car like that and found it annoying. Mainly on views to the right.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1152 "2024-07-03T21:18:20Z")

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Lamar is back, and he got a new replacement Cybertruck! (after his frequent YouTube complaints)

Only, that one bricked too, and this time they had to drill a hole under the frunk to access it.

Just working out the glitches, folks.

> **[Tesla Engineers Break-in Through My Cybertruck Window & Drill Open My...](https://www.torquenews.com/11826/my-2nd-bricked-cybertruck-stumps-tesla-elon-musk-personally-intervenes-tesla-engineers-break)**
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> Tesla only recently gave Lamar a replacement Cybertruck after his 1st truck ended up plagued with issues. However, Lamar’s 2nd Cybertruck has once again failed spectacularly. Elon Musk has personally stepped in with a radical approach to solving the...

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1153 "2024-07-04T13:32:18Z")

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In the military we had a saying:

> Once is bad luck. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

If I was Tesla I’d be real curious to know how Lamar is treating his trucks.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1154 "2024-07-04T14:11:50Z")

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Yeah, everyone knows pick up trucks should be treated delicately.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1155 "2024-07-04T16:19:57Z")

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And yet

> **[Tesla Cybertruck might have become the best-selling electric pickup truck in...](https://electrek.co/2024/07/04/tesla-cybertruck-might-have-become-the-best-selling-electric-pickup-truck-us/)**
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> Tesla Cybertruck might have become the best-selling electric pickup truck in the US. If it wasn’t last quarter, it looks...

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1156 "2024-07-04T16:36:47Z")

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“we don’t have any way of knowing how many cybertrucks Tesla has shipped, but we can make an educated guess based on their numerous recalls.”

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1157 "2024-07-11T17:01:56Z")

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I was behind a Cybertruck on my commute today so I got a good long look at it from the back, and I don’t like it, but I still find it better than the current design of the GM heavy duty trucks.

I saw one (probably) wrapped in gloss black the other day, and I actually think that helped. Instead of a refrigerator it looked more like a black marble countertop.

I’m waiting to run into this one, as it’s driving around Boulder. (If the image doesn’t show, or the thumbnail changes, it is a Cybertruck wrapped in a stars and stripes theme.)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2IO9aWlaD70/maxresdefault.jpg "Here’s What Happened When We Brought a Wrapped Tesla Cybertruck To a 4th of July Parade!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IO9aWlaD70)

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1158 "2024-07-11T19:13:25Z")

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I recently followed a standard stainless steel finish CT down the freeway in the rain. The taillights are just a straight featureless line of red. Installed a bunch higher off the road surface than are typical tail and brake lights. And without the traditional blob of red at each rear corner in whatever distinct shape.

From the rear, the rest of the vehicle is a featureless slab of gray metal. In rainy conditions.

The net result was it actually very hard to see in the rain. Traffic was accordioning of course and more than once I sorta lost sight (or at least lost notice) of the thing despite the fact it was trapped right there in front of me and I knew it was there. The red lights somehow don’t trigger my “that’s a taillight” recognizer. And therefore not my “that’s the ass end of a vehicle” recognizer either.

It’ll be interesting to see if they develop a reputation for being uniquely rear endable despite their comparative bulk.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1159 "2024-07-14T14:02:30Z")

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This Sunday’s Foxtrot comic is relevant to this thread.

> **[FoxTrot by Bill Amend for July 14, 2024 | GoComics.com](https://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2024/07/14)**
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> July 14, 2024

I thought it was funny.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1160 "2024-07-18T07:10:22Z")

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Cybertruck is outselling the F-150 Lightning and the Rivian R1T combined:

> **[More Tesla Cybertrucks Registered in May than F-150 Lightnings and R1Ts Combined](https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a61623925/tesla-cybertruck-outselling-ford-f-150-lightning-rivian-r1t-registration-data/)**
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> Registration data shows that the Cybertruck is growing in popularity.

3907 registrations in May. And they’re still only selling the uber-expensive versions.

Lightning’s still ahead for the year. But I don’t think that’ll last long based on the growth rate:  
[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/X5biBLf.png "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/X5biBLf)

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