# Tesla Cybertruck **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 23, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866 "2019-11-23T10:32:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1321 "2024-10-03T21:26:38Z")
Realize that this recall is solved by an over the air software update that is already deployed. When the car is put into reverse, the image sometimes took a few seconds longer than the two seconds mandated by law. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1322 "2024-10-04T00:26:20Z")
Hmm. My non-CT seems to take longer than 2 seconds, but I’m stunningly impatient. Now I’ll have to time it. Who knew there was a regulatory standard for that? Not I. TIL … ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1323 "2024-10-04T00:43:58Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Realize that this recall is solved by an over the air software update that is already deployed. It’s kinda silly how many snail mail recall notices I’ve gotten for things that were fixed months ago by a software patch that I was barely aware of. The NHTSA really needs to have a different classification for “recalls” that don’t in fact require recalling the vehicle back to the dealer/manufacturer. At least don’t force the manufacturer to waste paper notifying owners that they can confirm have the update already! On the upside, we do know that at least 27,000 Cybertrucks have been sold. Not bad for less than a year in. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1324 "2024-10-04T01:01:52Z")
Recalls include unsold vehicles ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1325 "2024-10-04T01:37:03Z")
Seems academic in the case of Tesla since they don’t have dealers. There’s only ever a small number of cars which are “finished” but not yet actually sold. It might even be negative in some cases. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1326 "2024-10-04T01:59:42Z")
All that means is that unsold inventory doesn’t pile up on dealer lots, it piles up wherever Tesla can put it. Earlier this year it was reported that Tesla had [over 45,000 unsold vehicles](https://insideevs.com/news/720018/thousands-unsold-tesla-evs-parking-lots/) in its inventory. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1327 "2024-10-04T02:24:43Z")
Ok, but Tesla sells about 10x that number per quarter, so it’s about 9 days of production. Meanwhile, it’s [80 days for the rest of the industry](https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/new-vehicle-inventory-january-2024/). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1328 "2024-10-04T10:30:40Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > I just don’t like bad logic. If you’re going to critique it, it should be on things that are specific to it, not a feature of all trucks. The Cybertruck doesn’t have great visibility, but it’s probably a little _better_ than average with the large number of cameras and the short hood. Due to the sloped hood, it supposedly has much better visibility than the typically light truck. At least, my friend the Tesla fan tells me they actually advertised that feature, showing how many sitting children in a row were invisible to the typical truck driver, and that it was a lot fewer for the CT. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > I kinda _get_ the appearance. I’m two years younger than Musk, and it appeals to my 80s childhood aesthetic along with [Landmaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmaster) and [Ark 2](https://small-sci-fi-screen-craft.fandom.com/wiki/ARK_II_(Vehicle)) that showed up in the Saturday Sci-Fi matinees I was extremely fond of on the local stations. > > So many of the cars of that period were super angular, pointy and we (well, my friends and I of that age) loved them. I’m a little older than you, and i used to DRAW cars that looked like that all the time in elementary school. Only, being a child of the space age, mine had rocket flames coming out the back. So i kinda get the aesthetic, too. Except it looks fake and cartoony, like the video of Jeb (a Minecraft developer) stepping into a Minecraft Minecraft. But i imagine it appeals to a chunk of people. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1329 "2024-10-04T17:13:46Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Except it looks fake and cartoony, like the video of Jeb (a Minecraft developer) stepping into a Minecraft Minecraft. But i imagine it appeals to a chunk of people. Agreed. As I said, I _get_ it, but with my internal 12 year old, not my current sensibilities. And even then, as @BeepKillBeep’s video (very long, if amusing) mentions, it works BETTER when placed in an environment that matches, like a post-apoc or dystopian wasteland of the future. When parked next to a soccer dad’s SUV and a Honda civic at the local movie theater though, it looks completely out of place! And most of the fictional inspirations have a bit more… features to break up the lines and flat panels a bit. The cybertruck is so plain on the exterior that you can’t help but see how much it looks like something drawn for an Atari-era tank game. Not, and giving credit where it’s due, that accomplishing that didn’t require some impressive engineering, but it seems a waste of effort when the result makes it look _more_ cheap, rather than more advanced to a large number of customers (not all though!). I mean the Chinese concept vehicle that seems strongly influenced by the CT seems a lot more attractive to me, while still evoking the retro 80’s future, and being closer to modern sensibilities: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PIoMZhL1CJk/maxresdefault.jpg "Dongfeng E-Truck Concept : a Tesla Cybertruck Copycat With 1,305 HP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIoMZhL1CJk) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1330 "2024-10-04T17:23:32Z")
That looks like you can’t see out the front windshield. I’m kinda getting used to cars with shitty rear visibility, but no front visibility, either? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1331 "2024-10-04T18:52:49Z")
Well, it’s a concept car, so I bet much/most of it is style over substance right now, with little things like “visibility” being a distance concern at best. Was hoping to illustrate the point that there were possibilities in styling that Musk could have done that would have kept the 80s-kid-kool gee whiz options, but weren’t quite so brutalist. And would probably have been much easier to make. While there are plenty of reported technical issues with the CT (again, being scrupulously fair, some of which could be expected of any brand new vehicle model), the aesthetic ones almost certainly are 100% deliberate, and at _least_ 90% Elon’s direct input/fault. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1332 "2024-10-04T21:05:24Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I mean the Chinese concept vehicle that seems strongly influenced by the CT seems a lot more attractive to me, while still evoking the retro 80’s future, and being closer to modern sensibilities: Hmmm, they both look terrible to me, and I like the CT better between the two of them. The Chinese vehicle looks like a big mechanized suppository. Never thought I’d utter either of those sentences. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1333 "2024-10-05T00:08:39Z")
Hmmm, that’s not what i thought suppositories look like. But i agree that it’s aggressively ugly. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1334 "2024-10-06T17:51:18Z")
I saw this Cyber Smurf today: [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/3cTPFrM.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/9I4mES0) ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1335 "2024-10-07T00:13:08Z")
Seems that the early adopters’ 6 months insurance policies are starting to expire and they’re just now learning that they’re getting dropped. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1336 "2024-10-07T20:25:38Z")
Cite? Not disputing you, but curious about the reality. I’d not be surprised that the premiums for any new almost-revolutionary vehicle will suffer large run-ups as the carriers gain experience with repair costs. So I wonder how much is carriers flat dropping CT owners versus carriers saying e.g. “Last 6 months’ premium was $2000. Next 6 months will be $4000. Wanna renew?” and the owner’s recoiling in disgust asserting it’s the carriers constructively dropping them. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1337 "2024-10-07T21:03:56Z")
Speaking as someone with a P&C license who was a capture agent for auto insurance decades ago… @LSLGuy’s scenario seems more likely. Back then, we didn’t, generally, refuse to write a policy for anyone has a former high risk carrier. There were _vehicles_ we didn’t write, and for some of the same reasons the CT _might_ qualify (especially former postal vehicles, because no modifications made them safe enough for road use in the company’s opinion, which may or may not have any bearing on the CT), but we’d write policies that no sane person would want to pay for. Specifically, I recall a quote I delivered for a brand new tricked out Ford Mustang to a 19 year old in Detroit with 4 (!) At-Fault Accidents with tickets (one reckless, one, careless, one excess speed, and one red light). Cost was over $12000 a year, or roughly one third the cost of the car. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1338 "2024-10-07T21:06:10Z")
Looks like the whole thing was a misunderstanding: > **[GEICO denies dropping Tesla Cybertruck coverage: Here's what really happened](https://www.teslarati.com/geico-denies-dropping-tesla-cybertruck-coverage-heres-what-really-happened/)** > > Reports circulated this morning that GEICO has dropped coverage of the Tesla Cybertruck, as a letter posted on social media started to circulate indicating that it would end any insurance that current owners had on the all-electric pickup. Teslarati... Some guy was dropped coverage, the usual hysterical media sources spin it into insurance carriers dropping Cybertruck coverage en masse, etc. All without even bothering to check with the carriers to see if it was true. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1339 "2024-10-07T21:06:46Z")
Reporting has been muddy, I’ll just [link you to the chat](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/490) in the Musk Twitter thread. But I will note, I tried to get a quote from Geico this morning for a CT using both their vehicle dropdowns and a VIN from the internet and their website told me in no uncertain terms that it was a non-insurable vehicle. Now they seem to be backtracking while acknowledging that some customers may have been told that their coverage was being dropped. It is clear, at least, that Cybertrucks are fragile and repairing them is monstrously expensive if it’s even possible. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1340 "2024-10-07T21:06:56Z")
Smells more like a PR scramble than a misunderstanding. eta: And I still can’t request a quote through their website. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866.md?page=68)