# Tesla Cybertruck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 23, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866 "2019-11-23T10:32:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1461 "2025-01-03T13:59:11Z")

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Better wipers might not have had the problem. As I recall, you’d get a little bit of build up lifting the wiper up, and it snowballed (literally) from there.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1462 "2025-01-03T22:22:37Z")

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I had a taxi driving me to my car from Logan in a blizzard once, and it came down so hard that it began clumping on the wipers. We (and a lot of other people) pulled off at various underpasses to clear them.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1463 "2025-01-03T23:03:26Z")

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Heavy wet snow is sticky. Surprisingly so.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1464 "2025-01-03T23:25:11Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I had a taxi driving me to my car from Logan in a blizzard once, and it came down so hard that it began clumping on the wipers. We (and a lot of other people) pulled off at various underpasses to clear them.

I’ve driven several times in freezing rain that was way worse than any other windshield condition I’ve driven in. Defrost on high does nothing. Heavy snow sucks, but is more manageable.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1465 "2025-01-04T12:17:57Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I had a taxi driving me to my car from Logan in a blizzard once, and it came down so hard that it began clumping on the wipers. We (and a lot of other people) pulled off at various underpasses to clear them.

That’s SOP in the Colorado mountains. Or do it as your driving

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1466 "2025-01-04T18:02:20Z")

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My dad drove me back to college from a winter break and on the way back, in a snowstorm, the wipers quit working, He had to drive the rest of the way with his window open, wiping a cleared spot to see through. I think he and mom eventually found a motel to stop at.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1467 "2025-01-04T19:14:48Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> He had to drive the rest of the way with his window open, wiping a cleared spot to see through. I think he and mom eventually found a motel to stop at.

Slightly less of a wiper story, but my wife and I were driving with the kids back to MA via West Virginia when a huge snowstorm hit and killed any kind of visibility. We were on a section of mountain highway with a lot of switchbacks, and my wife held a phone/GPS map where I could see it and also called out what she was seeing. We negotiated like that for a while until we found a Swissotel in what felt like the middle of nowhere. And it was actually a nice hotel! Even had breakfast.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1468 "2025-01-04T19:58:05Z")

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I’ve done the wiper snap a lot. One time the wiper came off in my hand. Ooops (that’s not what I said)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1469 "2025-01-05T18:22:02Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> My dad drove me back to college from a winter break and on the way back, in a snowstorm, the wipers quit working, He had to drive the rest of the way with his window open, wiping a cleared spot to see through. I think he and mom eventually found a motel to stop at.

I’ve had a lot of POS cars in my days (look up Adam Sandler if you don’t know what a POS car is) and one of them was a 71 VW Bug. If you know how their heaters work, the exhaust provides the heat source in an air exchanger. Well, mine obviously leaked so the heater just pumped exhaust into the car. Not an ideal situation. Also, made keeping the windshield clear difficult. Good news was the windshield was flat and about a foot in front of my face so I could scrape the inside and outside while driving down the road.

I don’t know how I made it out of my 20s alive.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1470 "2025-01-05T20:14:52Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Well, mine obviously leaked so the heater just pumped exhaust into the car. Not an ideal situation.

I know it’s early January, but we might have _The Understatement of the Year_ winner here.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1471 "2025-01-06T03:36:00Z")

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Back around late 1980s my bro had a POS old Beetle with the leaking heat exchangers. In a cold climate. Ugh.

Anyone worried about the so-called “insidious” nature of CO poisoning has never ridden in a car with an exhaust system leaking into the passenger compartment. The stench of 1970s carbureted engine exhaust will turn your eyes bright red & make your nose burn and force you out of the car for fresh air long before the CO build-up in your blood stream causes any disturbance of consciousness.

A home furnace might be a different story; burning natural gas or propane in equipment with much more complete combustion. While you are sleeping. _That_ might sneak up on you / anyone . But 1970s car exhaust? hRDLY. Only if you were falling down drunk or stoned to begin with.

FYI late model (~post 2000 ?) cars are a different matter. They produce so little CO that attempted suicide by concentrated car exhaust almost always fails. But the other noxious substances in the exhaust can produce long term organ damage that really wrecks the survivior’s life.

Sorta like attempted suicide by acetaminophen poisoning: far more people cripple than kill themselves by it. So just don’t try it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1472 "2025-01-06T03:55:07Z")

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I wonder if the price includes the world’s smallest violin?

> **[It’s Impossible to Get Rid of a Tesla Cybertruck. I Want to Cut My Losses and...](https://www.torquenews.com/11826/its-impossible-get-rid-tesla-cybertruck-i-want-cut-my-losses-and-move-i-cant-give-thing-away)**
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> A Cybertruck owner shares his frustration following multiple failed attempts to sell his truck. After losing more than $20,000 in 2,800 miles, the owner says, “I want to cut my losses and move on, but I can't give this thing away.”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1473 "2025-01-06T03:59:47Z")

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That article quotes him saying, “It is depreciating like a rock.” I’m surprised that someone who’s “driven and sold over 40 exotic cars” finds that surprising. Didn’t many of his previous cars depreciate?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1474 "2025-01-06T04:12:49Z")

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He obviously has no appreciation for depreciation.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1475 "2025-01-06T04:23:49Z")

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The article says nothing about why he is trying to sell it. If he’s bored with his toy after less than a year of _course_ he’s going to take a bath. Folks on the Bolt owners board I peruse were complaining how Herz flogging off its EV fleet drove the resale value of their used Bolts down.

People, with a few rare exceptions automobiles are not investments.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1476 "2025-01-06T04:27:13Z")

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I just figured someone who had bought and sold that many cars in his lifetime would be familiar with the concept of depreciation.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1477 "2025-01-06T04:33:21Z")

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No quibble there. If he was trying to do trucky stuff with his CT and it disappointed I might feel a bit sorry, but there’s no hint of that in the article.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1478 "2025-01-06T04:40:14Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> wonder if the price includes the world’s smallest violin?

This to me is the key paragraph in the article:

> if you added every optional extra that Tesla currently offers for the Cybertruck, given the $7,500 tax credit and the $2000 referral discount, the Cybertruck will still only cost around $86,000.

He’s asking $89,000. Of course he can’t sell a used car for a premium over a new car that someone can take delivery of immediately. I don’t think the “Founder Edition” decal is worth $3,000. That’s even a more expensive decal if you don’t want all terrain tires or full self driving (supervised).

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1479 "2025-01-06T04:51:24Z")

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Most likely, he thought that the million long pre-order indicated more demand and scarcity than actually turned out to be the case, possibly also betting against future production being substantial - both of which turned out to be false.

And there was _briefly_ the spike in secondary sales (with the attempt by Musk to ban them) which he was probably gloating about. But there’s a near-glut of the things now, and theoretically the newer models have fewer _issues_ than the early production, so he’s screwed.

So the combination of their 40+ car history and the above means he’s bet before, and he bet wrong this time. That’s the nature of the game. No sympathy, but no excessive blame either from me.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1480 "2025-01-06T11:11:32Z")

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Not 40 cars. 40 _exotic_ cars.

If you deal in the right circles, like Ferraris, they often are _appreciating_ assets. That market is not the same as the one for Fords, Toyotas, or even Hondas.

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