That was always one of favorites! “Sweet mother of pearl!” is in my normal lexicon.
Would that work include the percentage of people that use FSD vs. the percentage of people that don’t, just to get a true picture?
Of course.
And since I’m feeling generous I’ll even start the analysis. 106 people died in car accidents per day last year. So far there have been 19 deaths linked to FSD ever in its history.
According to this cite, Only 2% of Tesla Full Self-Driving trial users end up buying it, credit card data show | Electrek only 2% of Tesla owners that opted for FSD decided to keep it after the initial trial run. “According to YipitData’s latest figures, nearly 3,500 Tesla owners trialed the company’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) service over the past month. However, only about 50 of these trials converted into FSD subscriptions or purchases, translating to a conversion rate of just under 2% as of May 5th. The data reveals a cautious approach among Tesla drivers towards paying for subscriptions to its autonomous driving technology.”
When you factor that in, “only” 19 deaths attributed to FSD is a bit high.
How long is that history, and for how long was that in a very limited beta mode?
That’s not quite it. It’s really difficult to get numbers out of Tesla. They did trial that got 2% more divers to get FSD. A significant number of drivers already had it. I’ve seen anywhere from 15% to 50%. It’s complicated. People who have it don’t use it all the time. Some people only subscribe for one or two months per year like when they’re taking a road trip. Remember that that 19 happened over a few years but that number could be understated.
As you indicated there’s a relatively very small number of overall drivers with it so it gets tough to get good relative statistics.
It looks like the full FSD launch was in 2020 as an upgrade to the “enhanced” autopilot.
Any idea how many times people have been trapped in a Tesla after an accident and were unable to escape because of issues with the doors / door handles? I see a number of these incidents as I look around the internet, but hard to determine how many were separate occurrences.
Which is to say… what other useless, dangerous features on these cars have also killed people?
Which is also to say… nobody is looking past the fact that around 40k people get killed in cars each year. But Tesla seems to have added to that tally needlessly.
I just did another search that says 29 FSD deaths in 2024 which makes more sense. The impossible thing to suss out is how many more (or fewer) deaths would there have been if all of those FSD miles weren’t done with FSD.
Is that unique to Tesla, or all modern cars?
Tesla has these weird buttons to open doors which are confusing to an unfamiliar person. They also have a regular mechanical door opener in the usual expected place.
Are there other cars with this problem?
There are already 19 deaths? I don’t have the numbers to analyze that fairly, but that feels really high, given the small number of people using it.
I don’t know, but I’d like to. I’ve heard about this mostly with regard to Teslas, including from a firefighter friend of mine who said they must be treated quite differently in various emergency situations.
Wouldn’t surprise me to learn to that the industry as a whole has made needless changes to door locks that makes them less safe than purely mechanical devices.
I corrected that number. It’s actually more than that.
A few hundred thousand use FSD
To be honest, I’m not sure what the problem is. The door handles on my wife’s Tesla are not really any different than those on my Jaguar iPace.
I did have a client almost drown in his Suburban because the first responders were unable to open the door under water.
They do? I’ve been a passenger in a lot of Teslas, and I’ve gotten used to the doors. But i didn’t see any alternative way to open it. And I’ve watched a lot of fellow passengers struggle to exit.
Okay, now I think I get it. I was in a Model 3 once (Uber) and I did have trouble figuring out how to open the door. So, some Teslas have unusual door handles.
They absolutely do.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html
Could they have been talking about the battery issues with regards to fires which is a thing for all EVs?