Now I understand; thanks.
Hmm. The only car I’ve driven in 1-pedal mode is a Model Y and only for ~30 minutes. So I have no great experience to share. But I didn’t notice the force to be unusual vs my lifetime of driving various IC cars or the same Tesla in 2-pedal mode.
My husband complained about it, too. I fiddled with the controls and minimized the degree of braking when letting up the pedal.
I think the one you drove must’ve been unique. I have an ICE and a Tesla and I don’t find the force required to push down the pedal on the Tesla to be different than the ICE. Certainly easier to maintain the speed, particularly in varied terrain where on an ICE you have to give it more fuel going uphill (I have an old Subaru so it requires a lot more urging uphill) and less downhill. The Tesla seems to do that on it’s own.
This electric car maintains speed pretty easily over hills and such at any setting. I find it harder to “maintain” speed with one pedal driving because i have to think about not letting it slow down.
Weird. I know anecdote≠data, but I had a Tesla Model Y and. Chevy Bolt. That was not my experience in either. In fact, the one thing I miss most about both was the 1 pedal experience
Some people just don’t take to things that others find very easy. I certainly have examples but in the case of one pedal driving, it took me maybe two days lose the muscle memory and I found it significantly easier. It’s like a throttle.
What about the children pearl clutching:
I like one pedal driving, and for most trips in the EV, I probably never touch the brake. However, several years of driving non-EVs prior to the EV has given me a brake pedal reflex. When an emergency situation arises, I automatically hit the brake to stop the car as quickly as necessary.
Will kids today that learn to drive on one-pedal EVs develop a brake reflex? Will they instinctively stomp the brake pedal when they need to stop sooner than regen alone would accomplish?
It’s unclear to me, so I made mine learn on a gas-engine car, despite their parents mostly driving electrics.
On a related note, an older friend of mine had his first-ever car accident, after many decades of driving. He pressed the accelerator, rather than the brake, while in a parking lot. This is the sort of incident that is much less likely to happen with one-pedal driving. With two pedal driving, you press to accelerate and also press to brake, and if you forget where your foot is, bad things happen. With one-pedal driving, you press to speed up and release to slow down. It’s rare that you’ll ever need the brake pedal when parking.
Do children wear pearls?
Child pearl clutchers are the worst.
When my brakes explosively failed as i was on the “off ramp” of a major highway, i managed to grab the emergency brake, that is previously only used rarely, for parking.
My new EV doesn’t have a parking brake that can be used that way. (It has a button that’s on or off, not at all what you want to safely slow down in the middle of heavy traffic.) It makes me slightly nervous. But I’ve practiced hitting the “more regen” paddle repeatedly, which i think would work in that situation.
I don’t think you need to react instantly in most situations. I didn’t, and i had time to do something safe. Make sure the kids know they can use the brake pedal, and i think they’ll be okay.
I’m much more worried about kids growing up with “autopilot” who may never develop the reflexes to drive. I just hope they never need to.
Just like electronically operated doors, electronic parking brakes are not an EV specific feature. It is concerning that cars with only an on or off setting for the parking have become the standard. At least with the old cable design, you could modulate the pressure to gently slow the car, instead of just locking up the rear tires.
Huh. I assumed that the useless parking brake was allowed because the car already has two mostly-independent braking systems, both the physical brakes and the electronic braking.
A parking brake is not an emergency brake. A parking brake is an additional brake to prevent a car from moving when it’s not being operated (that is, when it’s parked). An emergency brake is an additional brake to use when other braking systems fail (for instance, in an emergency). In the past, the same brake could be used for both purposes, but as you note, that is no longer true.
Ehh, if your normal brakes have failed I don’t know what you’d call it, but I’d use it in an emergency.
That said, as a teen I have driven from Arlington to Fort Worth with the weak ass rear brakes on an '82 Escort engaged the whole way using the handle.
Bolt owner here and, ditto. If I open the throttle to a point where I’m going 65mph down the interstate, it stays at 65 and I watch the consumption rise and fall with the grade, at least in the flat part here. It might lag on the 6% grade up I-17.
I use cruise control to maintain that speed. If I don’t, over time I tend to east up and the car slows down.
Which isn’t something that happens to me when I’m using conventional (or fake conventional) braking. So I think you are agreeing with me. One foot driving isn’t really practical unless you also use cruise control.
Well, in my experience, hard disagree. I rarely used the Tesla cruise control thanks to the phantom braking issues that were prevalent during my time as an owner. Never had any issue with one pedal driving and maintaining highway speeds over long drives.
Your experience is your own of course but you’re an outlier in this case.
I would be shocked if using the parking brakes because the standard brakes exploded is a problem that happens to more than 1 in 10,000,000 people in their lifetime. That’s not a scenario to even consider when buying a car. There have to be at least a thousand more relevant features