# Test thread — to test things out. Do not lock!

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**Created:** [December 27, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/test-thread-to-test-things-out-do-not-lock/956736 "2021-12-27T18:05:07Z")\
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> [@LSLGuy](#):
>
> If you start to create a test post and look at the preview before you save, you’ll see that in the preview they do appear as numbered footnotes at the end of the post.
> 
> They just don’t look that way (at all) in your actual post once you click [Save]. As you say, they’re more inline notes.

Well that is not optimal. It might not even be good.

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It’s not. It’s dumb.

But as @pjd said, it’s a toggle switch on the Discourse SDMB control panel. if only there was somebody with authority to flip it we’d be in business.

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nm

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Disregard

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Spoiler vs Details?

**Wordle 1,417 3/6 — 2025-05-06 Tue**  
⬛🟨⬛🟨🟨  
⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩   
 **REDACTED**  
 **REDACTED**  
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**Wordle 1,417 3/6 — 2025-05-06 Tue**  
⬛🟨⬛🟨🟨  
⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

> **Using the Details tag**
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> **REDACTED**

[Details=“Using the Details tag”] **REDACTED**  
**REDACTED**  
**REDACTED**  
**REDACTED** [/Details]

Apparently, Details is only one line at a time whereas with Spoiler you can do multiple lines?

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> **No...**
>
> You need to make  
> sure that the detail tags are  
> on their own line.

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> **OK...**
>
> So I need to make  
> sure that the detail tags are  
> on their own line?

I see. OK thank you.

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@ParallelLines (or anyone else who sees this) hey, man. I looked up and saw you posted very recently. could you do me a favor and reply to this post, so I get a little number that upper right icon?

I’m going to tweak the color on it in my tweaker scripts, as it is the wrong color (as @puzzlegal noted)

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Here’s a reply for ya

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Sorry I failed you @BigT - I was about to reply when my step-mom called back after I left her a message for Mother’s day. And I love this board, but, well, needs must. 😉

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Sorry I failed you @BigT - I was about to reply when my step-mom called back after I left her a message for Mother’s day. And I love this board, but, well, needs must. 😉 ⁢

I totally understand. I just picked you because I thought a mod (especially a newer one who was probably brought on to be more available) would be most likely to be on, and I’d seen you’d posted very recently.

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List One

1. This
2. That
3. The other thing

List Two  
1.\ Tom  
2. Dick  
3. Harry

Okay – how do I get it to keep the list at the left margin, but not show the backslash?

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1. Good
2. question
3. will
4. close
5. parens
6. align
7. the
8. list
9. to
10. the
11. left?

Is that aligned left?  
Negative. I manually entered the numbers, and the close parens were converted to periods. If you quote it you will see.

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If you mean like this…

List Two  
1. Tom  
2. Dick  
3. Harry

…and you are okay with manually formatting it, put the slash in between the number and the period on each line. Like this:

List Two  
1\. Tom  
2\. Dick  
3\. Harry

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It seems that you only need the backslash after the first number.

```auto
List Two
1\. Tom
2. Dick
3. Harry

```

List Two  
1. Tom  
2. Dick  
3. Harry

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The standard Discourse (Markdown actually) list format is indented and self-numbering. You make every entry start with “1.” and it will render the correct numbers. So you can edit, add, rearrange, etc. your entries and it’ll still come out correctly numbered.

If you’re putting your own distinct numbers on each row, your only challenge is _stopping_ the auto recognition that you’re creating an auto-numbering and therefor auto-indenting list.

For myself, I find that Edge is “smart” enough to self-enter auto-incrementing numbers for me after I’ve started a numbered list with “1.”. So now I’ve got two automation systems fighting each other. Gaah!! Mom, make it _stop!_

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The standard Discourse (Markdown actually) list format is indented and self-numbering. You make every entry start with “1.” and it will render the correct numbers. So you can edit, add, rearrange, etc. your entries and it’ll still come out correctly numbered.

But it still comes out indented. It wasn’t indented when I typed it. It’s like the double space between sentences – I don’t think I’m wrong to want the text to appear just as I wrote it, without being edited by the software..

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> But it still comes out indented. It wasn’t indented when I typed it. It’s like the double space between sentences – I don’t think I’m wrong to want the text to appear just as I wrote it, without being edited by the software..

Sorta.

When you type \*\*bolding\*\* do you want to see the asterisks, or the **bolding**? The answer is almost certainly that you want Discourse to convert two asterisks to bolding.

The problem comes in with the more advanced formatting features that people don’t know about and inadvertently trigger. Like the one that indents lists. I know how to create both an indented and an unindented list. The commands are different and both are arbitrary in some way.

Just as two asterisks signalling bold is arbitrary. Just a more familiar form of arbitrary.

Admittedly Discourse formatting is a bit of a dog’s breakfast because it honors a subset of HTML \<whatever\>, a subset of BBCode [whatever] which itself is a historical safe subset of HTML, _and_ it honors Markdown which is a completely different approach to applying formatting to text using inline codes. To boot it even honors LaTex for math formula formatting.

That’s quite a Swiss Army knife and it’s easy to cut yourself on the fish scaler while trying to use the Phillips screw driver. A fish scaler you didn’t know existed.

  

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> It’s like the double space between sentences

Actually, it’s not. At least not from the tech POV. The original standard for HTML _demands_ that all browsers everywhere _display_ a run of spaces as a single space.

You can create the appearance of multiple spaces by using a special character that, per the standard, is _not_ compressed if duplicated. More trouble than it’s worth though.

Like you, I personally would prefer that the HTML standard had allowed “period followed by two spaces” to be displayed exactly as “period followed by two spaces”. But that didn’t happen 40 years ago when the standard was being written. So we’re stuck with it.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Actually, it’s not. At least not from the tech POV. The original standard for HTML _demands_ that all browsers everywhere _display_ a run of spaces as a single space.

And which is it when it deletes the fourth dot if you type an ellipsis (omitted words, or a sentence trailing off) followed by a period (end of sentence)?

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That I do not know for certain. I suspect it is a Discourseism, not an HTML standard.

I do know that “… .” is rendered accurately. So that’s what I use for ending a sentence with an ellipsis: a 3-dot ellipsis, a space, then a single dot for the period.

Personally I’ve always found the 4-dot ellipsis to be a confusing thing to read. It looks much more like a mistake than a planned rendering. I admit that’s just me, not a typographical standard or custom. I see the 4-dot ellipsis as a bit like other ligatures, e.g. “pædiatrics”: a quaint holdover from antiquated notions of stylish typography from the pre-computer era.

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