# Testing screen width....and can I post this? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 13, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604 "2003-06-13T15:56:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/1 "2003-06-13T15:56:12Z")
TaxGuy, these figures, from the BMJ, show that the amount smoked is highly relevant. If I’ve iinterpreted them correctly, you can see from the line in bold the great increase in going from no cigarettes to 1-14/15-25/\>25 cigarettes per day. I suppose it’s possible that 1-14 does not apply to ten or less, but I don’t think so (although this doesn’t seem to be specifically addressed in the study as far as I can tell.). I so hope this doesn’t screw up the screen for everyone. I’m going to email the mods in case it does. ```auto TABLE III - Mortality by smoking habits from neoplastic diseases --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Annual mortality per 100 000 men --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Standardised test Non- Cigarette smokers Other smokers for trend smokers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (never Current No of cigarettes 0/1-14/ Site of primary cancer smoked --------------------------------- 15-24/ (No of deaths, 1951-91) regularly) Former Current 1-14 15-24 >=25 Former Current N/X/S(dagger) >=25(double dagger) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upper respiratory sites (98) 1 3 24 12 18 48 8 15 6.6 7.5 **Lung (893) 14 58 209 105 208 355 59 112** 17.4 19.5 Oesophagus (172) 4 19 30 17 33 45 14 23 5.5 6.4 Pancreas (205) 16 23 35 30 29 49 11 24 3.4 3.6 Bladder (182) 13 21 30 29 29 37 13 21 3.0 2.9 Stomach (277) 26 25 43 40 46 44 23 30 2.7 2.5 Liver (76) 7 9 11 17 3 15 9 6 0.7 0.7 Kidney (113) 9 11 13 13 14 12 11 16 1.8 0.8 Myeloid leukaemia (66) 4 8 7 3 9 10 8 8 1.2 2.0 Colon (437) 36 50 46 49 39 52 55 47 0.8 1.0 Rectum (168) 10 15 23 13 19 44 17 24 3.5 4.6 Prostate (568) 68 58 67 54 73 84 54 64 -0.3 1.0 Non-myeloid leukaemia (98) 14 9 12 16 8 13 8 10 -0.3 -0.4 Lymphoma (146) 16 15 16 15 22 7 16 17 0.3 0.6 Myelomatosis (74) 11 8 9 5 12 10 9 5 -1.6 -0.3 Other specified sites (344) 39 39 40 44 33 45 47 31 -0.8 0.3 Site unknown (167) 15 15 30 18 42 30 10 21 3.3 3.8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All neoplastic disease 305 384 656 482 645 936 369 474 14.2 17.4 (No of deaths (4084)) (414) (885) (1139) (317) (416) (406) (565) (1081) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If smoking is unrelated to mortality from a particular disease the standardised trend test has expectation zero and a standard deviation of unity, so values above 1.96, 2.57, and 3.29 correspond to P values (two tailed) of 0.05, 0.01, and 0.001. (dagger)N/X/S=non-smokers, former smokers of any type of tobacco, current smokers of any type. (double dagger)0/1-14/15-24/>=25=non-smokers, smokers of 1-14, 15-24, and 25 or more cigarettes only. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/2 "2003-06-13T15:57:49Z")
Aw crap. Mods, I took this from a BMJ article. I’m not sure if I may have reproduced too much…? Can I leave it here and link to it to avoid screwing up the width in the thread? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/3 "2003-06-13T17:55:15Z")
Interesting, your odds of getting liver cancer or leukaemia seem to go down with about one pack a day verses never having smoked. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/4 "2003-06-14T03:52:41Z")
**whuck** : I’d call that statistically insignificant for two reasons: First, only 66 people in the survey had it at all. Second, it’s only a drop of one case. Small sample size + Tiny variance = Nothing worth calling correlation, let alone causation. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/5 "2003-06-14T03:55:38Z")
Bah. I didn’t see non-myeloid leukaemia and ignored your reference to liver cancer. And I completely misinterpreted the survey. I need to get more sleep. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/6 "2003-06-15T19:57:51Z")
I’m gonna leave it, but just for the record, wide posts like that really annoy me. Hope you didn’t post it elsewhere on the board like like that. your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-screen-width-and-can-i-post-this/181604/7 "2003-06-16T10:37:43Z")
Yeah, sorry Tuba, I didn’t think it’d be that (ridiculously) wide. I found a much abbreviated version for the thread. Thanks anyway.