# Testing Symbol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626>\
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**Created:** [April 28, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626 "2003-04-28T07:54:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/1 "2003-04-28T07:54:32Z")

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1. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x H = [symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]E/[symbol]d[/symbol]t + j
2. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x E = - [symbol]m[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]H/[symbol]d[/symbol]t
3. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . H = 0
4. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . E = [symbol]r[/symbol]/[symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub]

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/2 "2003-04-28T07:58:22Z")

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🙂

God said…

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> [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x H = [symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]E/[symbol]d[/symbol]t + j  
> [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x E = - [symbol]m[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]H/[symbol]d[/symbol]t  
> [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . H = 0  
> [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . E = [symbol]r[/symbol]/[symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub]

and there was light…

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/3 "2003-04-28T08:05:50Z")

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I can only assume that’s Maxwell’s Equations. Pretty cool, but FYI, it won’t look like that to everyone. I use Netscape, and here’s how it looks to me:

> [@](#):
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> 1. Ñ x H = e[sub]0[/sub] dE/dt + j
> 2. Ñ x E = - m[sub]0[/sub] dH/dt
> 3. Ñ . H = 0
> 4. Ñ . E = r/e[sub]0[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/4 "2003-04-28T10:30:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grimpixie \*
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> 1. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x H = [symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]E/[symbol]d[/symbol]t + j
> 2. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x E = - [symbol]m[/symbol][sub]0[/sub] [symbol]d[/symbol]H/[symbol]d[/symbol]t
> 3. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . H = 0
> 4. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . E = [symbol]r[/symbol]/[symbol]e[/symbol][sub]0[/sub]

Try this:

1. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x H = ε[sub]0[/sub] ∂E/∂t + j
2. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x E = - μ[sub]0[/sub] ∂H/∂t
3. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . H = 0
4. [symbol]Ñ[/symbol] . E = ρ/ε[sub]0[/sub]

How does that look in Netscape? And anyone know another way to do the del operator?

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**Author:** ![darksight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@darksight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darksight)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/5 "2003-04-28T10:51:14Z")

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ƒ

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/6 "2003-04-28T11:52:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
> \*\*I can only assume that’s Maxwell’s Equations. Pretty cool, but FYI, it won’t look like that to everyone. I use Netscape, and here’s how it looks to me: \*\*

☹

I’d thought Symbol was pretty much universal…

Ah well  
Grim

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/7 "2003-04-28T16:06:33Z")

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To do a del operator in Netscape you can use:

∇ = ∇

But I don’t think is universal, either.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/8 "2003-04-28T16:24:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Achernar \*  
> \*\*To do a del operator in Netscape you can use:
> 
> ∇ = ∇
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> But I don’t think is universal, either. \*\*

That shows up as a square in IE.

How was the rest of my post? Did rho, epsilon, mu and the partial differential show up correctly?

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/9 "2003-04-28T16:27:55Z")

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Yes they did. Although the dot product looked like a period.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/10 "2003-04-28T16:46:23Z")

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test

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**Author:** ![dlknox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@dlknox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dlknox)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/11 "2003-04-28T17:53:15Z")

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tests:  
😉  
🙂  
😛  
:B  
:E  
😃

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**Author:** ![dlknox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@dlknox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dlknox)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/12 "2003-04-28T18:03:27Z")

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😛  
😮  
:o

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**Author:** ![dlknox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@dlknox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dlknox)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/13 "2003-04-28T18:27:14Z")

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:mad:  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/14 "2003-04-28T21:11:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How was the rest of my post? Did rho, epsilon, mu and the partial differential show up correctly?

And for some reason, your **B** for the magnetic field came out looking like an **H** , and we all know that’s not right. After all, it’s all vacuum anyway.

\<d&r\>

You might also try, by the way, just using a superscript period for a dot product. It won’t copy and paste well, but it **will** at least look right on (almost) all browsers.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/15 "2003-04-28T22:36:01Z")

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I think that just using · will work too. Let’s see:

A · B

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/16 "2003-04-29T07:16:56Z")

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**D** = ε[sub]o[/sub] **E** + **P**  
**H** = **B** /μ[sub]o[/sub] − **M**

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **H** = ∂ **D** /∂t + **J**  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **E** = − ∂ **B** /∂t  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **B** = 0  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **D** = ρ

Happy with that version, **Chronos**?

And if it _was_ free space, I could write:

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol][sup]2[/sup] x **B** = μ[sub]o[/sub]ε[sub]o[/sub] ∂[sup]2[/sup] **B** /∂t[sup]2[/sup]  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol][sup]2[/sup] x **E** = μ[sub]o[/sub]ε[sub]o[/sub] ∂[sup]2[/sup] **E** /∂t[sup]2[/sup]

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/17 "2003-04-29T12:15:45Z")

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Alternatively, in Heaviside-Lorentz:

**D** = **E** + **P**  
**H** = **B** − **M**

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **H** = (∂ **D** /∂t + **J** )/_c_  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **E** = (-∂ **B** /∂t)/_c_  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **B** = 0  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **D** = ρ

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/18 "2003-04-29T13:17:18Z")

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May as well do the others, too.

Gaussian:

**D** = **E** + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **P**  
**H** = **B** − 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **M**

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **H** = (∂ **D** /∂t + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **J** )/_c_  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **E** = (-∂ **B** /∂t)/_c_  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **B** = 0  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **D** = 4[symbol]p[/symbol]ρ

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/19 "2003-04-29T13:31:39Z")

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cgs esu:

**D** = **E** + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **P**  
**H** = _c_[sup]2[/sup] **B** − 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **M**

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **H** = ∂ **D** /∂t + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **J**  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **E** = -∂ **B** /∂t  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **B** = 0  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **D** = 4[symbol]p[/symbol]ρ

And, lastly, cgs emu:

**D** = **E** /_c_[sup]2[/sup] + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **P**  
**H** = **B** − 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **M**

[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **H** = ∂ **D** /∂t + 4[symbol]p[/symbol] **J**  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] x **E** = -∂ **B** /∂t  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **B** = 0  
[symbol]Ñ[/symbol] · **D** = 4[symbol]p[/symbol]ρ

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/testing-symbol/171626/20 "2003-04-29T14:58:32Z")

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Buncha fuggin’ geeks.

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