# Texas again proves it is the asshole of the US **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239 "2017-06-30T22:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/221 "2017-07-13T18:06:20Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I didn’t confess to trolling. Nice try. > > I gave someone enough rope to hang himself from the stupid tree, then called him on it. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But because the libs on this board think that I am Satan incarnate, they whined and I got an unjustified suspension. > > Such is life. Yeah, it looked more like you were bragging about it. Same diff. And now whining about the resulting suspension you got, just like a snowflake does. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/222 "2017-07-13T18:07:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Hmmmmm. Because he’s an asshole and a troll, and he comes to the boards to wallow in his own filth because he thinks that makes the rest of us uncomfortable? Okay, that one did it. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/223 "2017-07-13T18:11:14Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Yes, I was suspended for trolling. Which I didn’t do, but what the hell, facts and reality don’t seem to matter one whit when libs get their undies all knotted up. > > I’m not denying anything. I’m stating a fact: in the course of a debate, when you see someone so far wrong that they are not even in the same zip code with correct, it is NOT trolling if you hand them the rope to hang themselves with. Which is what I did. Deal with it. Apparently, asking **Clothy** about his usage of ethnic slurs (which he never denied using) counts as “not even in the same zip code with correct”. I’m not sure how that works, since it was a question, not an assertion – how can a question be correct or not correct? ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/224 "2017-07-13T18:30:41Z")
**Not Carlson** , I want to try to add to **Bricker** explanation. This appeal was essentially about whether the plaintiffs are allowed to sue the government. Texas is a sovereign entity, and it doesn’t like getting sued in its own courts. If you want to sue Texas, your lawsuit needs to fit a category where Texas waived its sovereign immunity. Texas extends its immunity to its subparts, like the City of Houston. When Houston and te rest of the defendants were sued, they responded by asserting that the plaintiffs allegations don’t fit in a category where Texas waived its sovereign immunity. The civil procedure in Texas says that if the government says it can’t be sued, that we need to answer that question first, and it even has special rules that make the question subject to an immediate appeal. The case overall has a big question - what rights do same-sex couples get when they marry. And that big question gets mentioned in the Texas Supreme Court opinion, but they reminded us that this appeal isn’t about that big question. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/225 "2017-07-13T18:31:52Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Okay, that one did it. > > Fuck off. 1. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/226 "2017-07-13T18:42:40Z")
It isn’t really difficult, yanno. ---
**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/227 "2017-07-13T18:46:18Z")
I may have been wrong about the nature of this situation. I apologize. Despite no one remembering I ever posted in this thread. 😉 I still say “bite me” to the Texas Supreme Court for plenty of things. But I will delay this particular bite until I see where this goes, since it’s frankly confusing, being reported in various biased ways, and also I was drunk when I first posted in this thread. It’s probably always wise to regret things you post drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/228 "2017-07-13T19:12:27Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Okay, that one did it. > > Fuck off. Yay! I’m on the list! ETA: If someone replies to this, a big hearty wet kiss to **Clothy**! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/229 "2017-07-13T19:58:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yay! I’m on the list! ETA: If someone replies to this, a big hearty wet kiss to **Clothy**! Tongue? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/230 "2017-07-13T20:07:13Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. I didn’t troll him, no matter how much you whine that I did. Deal with it. Dealt with. Been a long time since I had anyone on the ignore list. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/231 "2017-07-13T20:07:13Z")
No tongue! [/Madeline Kahn] ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/232 "2017-07-14T05:47:27Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I missed this earlier. > > The fact that I am a “self-confessed” troll is news to me. How about a cite where I said “I am a troll”? Got a problem with people reaching a conclusion by extrapolating from circumlocution do you? If that’s your standard, how about a cite where you said “I believe that spouses in SSMs are entitled to the same employer-provided benefits that are available to spouses in opposite-sex marriages”? ETA: Thank you for your response in post 217. Although I may not have found it satisfactory, I appreciate your taking the time. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/233 "2017-07-14T13:51:39Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > This appeal was essentially about whether the plaintiffs are allowed to sue the government. . . . > > The case overall has a big question - what rights do same-sex couples get when they marry. And that big question gets mentioned in the Texas Supreme Court opinion, but they reminded us that this appeal isn’t about that big question. **Robb** , thanks for elaborating on the issue of the case. Much appreciated. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > At least 26, by my count. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > 1. _Hollyshit that’salot!_ > [@Scumpup](#): > > No tongue! [/Madeline Kahn] The legendary Billy? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/234 "2017-07-14T18:02:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Got a problem with people reaching a conclusion by extrapolating from circumlocution do you? If that’s your standard, **how about a cite where you said “I believe that spouses in SSMs are entitled to the same employer-provided benefits that are available to spouses in opposite-sex marriages”?** > > ETA: Thank you for your response in post 217. Although I may not have found it satisfactory, I appreciate your taking the time. No problem. However, I’ll take one more shot at this. There obviously is no direct cite for the highlighted statement above. There was, however, a very clear statement from me that I didn’t care where he got the insurance. Now, to a rational person (like me), that statement covers a whole bunch of things: 1. He could get it from his employer. 2. He could get it from his spouse’s employer 3. He could get it from Joe’s Pizza and Insurance down the street. 4. Probably some other sources that I didn’t think of. And it is meaningless to me where he gets the insurance. And given that, a rational person would thereby conclude that I quite OBVIOUSLY have no problem with him getting it from his spouse’s employer, as that was one of the options. However, that conclusion was not reached by numerous people, from which I conclude that they aren’t all that rational. And not one bit of this entire trainwreck had a durn thing to do with my original post, which simply pointed out that the OP was completely wrong in his post where he assumed (hell, he jumped a mile to that conclusion) that Texas was denying benefits to same-sex marriages. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/235 "2017-07-14T21:10:22Z")
Do you, like, break a lot of boards with your head showing off to your students down to the McDojang? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/236 "2017-07-14T21:14:04Z")
When **Scumpup** thinks\* you’re\* brain-damaged, it’s pretty much over. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/237 "2017-07-14T21:25:46Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Do you, like, break a lot of boards with your head showing off to your students down to the McDojang? Sticks and stones may break his bones but he’s well shielded from the devastating effects of words. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/238 "2017-07-14T22:06:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > When **Scumpup** thinks\* you’re\* brain-damaged, it’s pretty much over. Splendid! Then it is pretty much over for you too! Gosh, today is a good day! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/239 "2017-07-14T22:11:40Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Do you, like, break a lot of boards with your head showing off to your students down to the McDojang? Since you have no clue whatsoever about what I teach or don’t teach, I will ask for a cite that my school is a McDojang. This should prove really interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/240 "2017-07-14T22:13:55Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Since you have no clue whatsoever about what I teach or don’t teach, I will ask for a cite that my school is a McDojang. This should prove really interesting. I suspect you teach very little. You have a martial arts school. Is there more that I should give a wet shit about? Edited to add: There are thousands of martial arts schools and teachers. You being one of them is less than commandingly impressive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=13)