# Texas again proves it is the asshole of the US **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239 "2017-06-30T22:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/21 "2017-07-01T13:57:50Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > I’ve hiked Guadalupe national park. :::Hijack::: have you ever been to the Bush Mountain ridge? I never have, but on a topo map it looks like it might be even more spectacular then Hunter Peak and a rival to Guadalupe Peak. I’ve never been there because it looks pretty out of the way and I never visit there outside of the summer where it would be hard to lug as much water as I’d need to get there. But I always go to Guadalupe Mountains National Park when I go out west since it is the first thing worth seeing on the way from Florida and is a good way to ease into higher altitudes. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/22 "2017-07-01T14:00:44Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Texas isn’t quite as conservative as people in California think; California’s not quite as liberal as Texans think. They’re basically mirrors of each other, which is why they hate each other’s guts. That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/23 "2017-07-01T14:03:42Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity. To put this as bluntly as I possibly can. \*\*\>\>\>You are one dumb fucking retard.\<\<\< \*\* ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/24 "2017-07-01T14:04:45Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > An equal protection issue…14th Amendment? Did you read [post no 18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20317305&postcount=18). “Texas does not decide merits of a matter during an interlocutory appeal” seems to me to be a viable ground to grant Certiorari. If they had restored the stay, then they might have had an argument. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/25 "2017-07-01T14:06:34Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. **And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity.** Damn right, Cobra Kai wannabe. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/26 "2017-07-01T14:21:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Texas isn’t quite as conservative as people in California think; California’s not quite as liberal as Texans think. They’re basically mirrors of each other, which is why they hate each other’s guts. > > … To most of us Californians, Texas is just another red flyover state. A state that gave us Bush and Johnson isn’t worth thinking about. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/27 "2017-07-01T14:24:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity. By the way, you’re a liar. [Is California’s economy ‘growing a hell of a lot faster’ than Texas?](http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/) > [@](#): > > Gov. Jerry Brown recently claimed “California is growing a hell of a lot faster than Texas.” > > We took this to mean economic growth with a focus on the pace of job creation. California’s 3 percent job growth rate in 2015, which doubled Texas’ pace, definitely fits into Brown’s colorful claim. > > But California’s rate has slowed to about 2 percent so far this year, closer to Texas’ 1.6 job growth rate. > > Other economic metrics show California faring better than Texas in several, though not all, categories: California’s GDP expanded faster than Texas’ GDP in the first two quarters of this year, though Texas had a faster GDP growth rate in 2015. Also, per capita income grew twice as fast in California as Texas in 2015, also backing Brown’s statement. > > Texas, however, has consistently held a lower jobless rate than California in recent years. > > Brown, like the state’s economy in recent years, is on the right track. And while California has expanded jobs and its economy faster than Texas in many cases, there are a few cases where that growth has been strong but not necessarily “a hell of a lot faster.” > > We rate Brown’s statement Mostly True. [If California’s a ‘bad state for business,’ why is it leading the nation in job and GDP growth?](http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-california-econ-growth-20160722-snap-story.html) > [@](#): > > State and federal statistics released as recently as Friday make it clear: California is smoking hot, economy-wise. > > The state gained 40,300 jobs in June and 461,000 over the year. With a gain of 2.9%, that was the best 12-month record of any large state except Florida, which won by a nostril with a gain of 3%, and much better than the nation as a whole (1.7%). According to the congressional Joint Economic Committee, California leads the nation in growth in its gross domestic product, which grew by 4.2% in 2015 — more than twice the national rate. > > This record raises numerous questions, the most interesting of which is: So what’s all that guff about California being a “business-unfriendly” state? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/28 "2017-07-01T14:55:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity. Then explain Kansas, dumb shit. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/29 "2017-07-01T15:12:44Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Then explain Kansas, dumb shit. What I’ve heard is that Kansas sucks, Texas blows, so Oklahoma is windy. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/30 "2017-07-01T15:56:18Z")
I hate the ruling, I hope it gets overturned soon. I don’t know the legal standing of it, but I know the moral standing is crap. I love a lot about being in Texas but I do hate a lot about our government leaders. But I’m (very cautiously) optimistic that the Resistance to Trump and the Republicans in Washington will also affect politics here and we’ll hopefully marginalize the regressives. I remember when Obergefell came through and everyone celebrated, and some people seemed to think that everything would be okay now, and I remember thinking that there was still a lot of work to do, but I wasn’t saying that during celebrations since I didn’t want to be a Debbie Downer. > [@asahi](#): > > Texas isn’t quite as conservative as people in California think; California’s not quite as liberal as Texans think. They’re basically mirrors of each other, which is why they hate each other’s guts. > > I’m pretty hardcore Dem these days but honest to goodness, in a number of ways, Texas is one of my favorite states. Austin’s pretty hip to the game and has been for a long time. Much of the state is Latino and fighting the power like everyone else. It’s probably even a “purple” state, which explains why the white power establishment is going all out to cling to power. > > Not a fan of their batshit insane governor, who’s unbelievably even more batshit than the last one, but…don’t mess with Texas. Yeah I’m bothered by people focusing all their ire on Texas and the south, because it makes it easy for them to ignore a lot of bad stuff in their own states. There’s LGBTQ discrimination that’s legal in a lot of the states still. Also some people might not realize that the law that the Supreme Court ruled against was put in place by our lesbian mayor. Houston also has one of the biggest gay pride parades in the US. I can sometimes forget that the state overall is behind because I’m somewhat in a progressive bubble in Houston. And I know a lot of those progressives are fired up and are working in various ways to get things overall more progressive. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/31 "2017-07-01T15:59:18Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I hate the ruling, I hope it gets overturned soon. I don’t know the legal standing of it, but I know the moral standing is crap. I love a lot about being in Texas but I do hate a lot about our government leaders. _Moral standing is cra_p? You think the Court should have kept the stay on granting benefits to same sex couples? Ooookaaay. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/32 "2017-07-01T16:10:28Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > _Moral standing is cra_p? You think the Court should have kept the stay on granting benefits to same sex couples? > > Ooookaaay. Sorry, badly worded, obviously same sex couples should have the same benefits as everyone else, it’s a no brainer. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/33 "2017-07-01T16:12:38Z")
The key to identifying which Texans are assholes and which ones are okay is surprisingly simple. If they believe it is important now that Texas was an independent republic for a few years and/or believe that Texas retained the right to secede as a requirement before agreeing to rejoin the US following the Civil War, then they aren’t worth wasting your time. A minority of them are like that, but they make up for being few in number by being obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/34 "2017-07-01T16:14:45Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Sorry, badly worded, obviously same sex couples should have the same benefits as everyone else, it’s a no brainer. Which is in fact the outcome of yesterdays’s ruling. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/35 "2017-07-01T16:19:11Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > :::Hijack::: have you ever been to the Bush Mountain ridge? I never have. . . No. Sorry. Sound interesting. I’ll have to google it when my back quits screaming at me. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/36 "2017-07-01T16:45:51Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Which is in fact the outcome of yesterdays’s ruling. No one is interested in your “facts” on what the ruling “did.” Every say more stuff about how bad it is so we all know how virtuous you are!!! ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/37 "2017-07-01T17:00:59Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No one is interested in your “facts” on what the ruling “did.” > > Every say more stuff about how bad it is so we all know how virtuous you are!!! Whats your Lawyers view on the matter? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/38 "2017-07-01T17:02:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No one is interested in your “facts” on what the ruling “did.” > > Every say more stuff about how bad it is so we all know how virtuous you are!!! This is what I would expect from a slavery apologist. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/39 "2017-07-01T21:16:17Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > To put this as bluntly as I possibly can. > > \*\*\>\>\>You are one dumb fucking retard.\<\<\< > \*\* Wow, you know how to do big fonts. Whoopee. It’s a shame that all you posted with your awesome big fonts was bullshit. But what the hell, it was good for a laugh. Keep bringing the funny. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/40 "2017-07-01T21:17:37Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > To most of us Californians, Texas is just another red flyover state. A state that gave us Bush and Johnson isn’t worth thinking about. Ah - that explains the stupidity of your previous post to me. You live out in Granola World. Says it all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=3)