# Texas again proves it is the asshole of the US **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239 "2017-06-30T22:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/101 "2017-07-05T01:59:04Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Me? No sense of humor? Sorry to disappoint you, my friend, but I have a very nicely developed sense of humor. As to why I’m in “giggling fits”, let me ask this: do you ever go to the zoo and watch the monkeys in the monkey house and laugh at their antics? I find watching assholes like Morgenstern act in the same manner as the monkeys to be amusing. For God’s sake, stop coming to the zoo to shit! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/102 "2017-07-05T20:27:48Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > I wish you regressives would grow a spine. I asked you whether you thought I should be able to get health insurance through my husband’s work policy like straight married people. > > Like the coward you are, you did not answer-----the courts will figure it out. I don’t give a damn where you get insurance coverage. If the insurance company wants to sell it to you and you want to buy it, have at it. You can take that coward remark and shove it up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/103 "2017-07-05T20:30:11Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > “That’s because _bla bla bla_ liberals _bla bla bla_ liberal policies _bla bla bla_ liberal stupidity.” > > Is this really anyone’s idea of persuasive speech? Who’s trying to persuade anyone about anything? I simply posted a fact. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/104 "2017-07-05T20:32:00Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > How does it fit fit in with your Conservative values to blaspheme so foully? My conservative values include free speech. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/105 "2017-07-05T20:34:21Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > For God’s sake, stop coming to the zoo to shit! Sigh. A perfect example of a liberal jackass braying stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/106 "2017-07-05T21:13:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > My conservative values include free speech. You are to Conservatives what **ElvisL1ves** is to gun control advocates. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/107 "2017-07-05T21:14:46Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > My conservative values include free speech. And the unrepentant usage of ethnic slurs, based on your posting history. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/108 "2017-07-05T21:46:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. A perfect example of a liberal jackass braying stupidity. I’m pretty good at picking out the next stool sample to get banned, and, well…you’re it. Even before Okrahoma, but only because he’s a ninja and you’re not. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/109 "2017-07-05T21:56:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And the unrepentant usage of ethnic slurs, based on your posting history. I’m pretty sure the person you’re addressing has you on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/110 "2017-07-05T22:40:30Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’m pretty sure the person you’re addressing has you on ignore. I am too – and the reason he has me on ignore is because I asked him about his usage of ethnic slurs. He says he only puts people on ignore if they act like jerks to him, but he’s lying about that. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/111 "2017-07-06T00:16:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > My conservative values include free speech. Except when it’s too uncomfortably true. Then you put it on Ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/112 "2017-07-06T02:59:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. A perfect example of a liberal jackass braying stupidity. Hey, **Clothahump** , you missed a spot. > [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Clothahump](#): > > > > That’s because we’ve been infested by liberals fleeing California and Yankeeland due to economic issues caused by failed liberal policies. And they want to infest us with their liberal stupidity. > > By the way, you’re a liar. > > [Is California’s economy ‘growing a hell of a lot faster’ than Texas?](http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/) > . . . > [If California’s a ‘bad state for business,’ why is it leading the nation in job and GDP growth?](http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-california-econ-growth-20160722-snap-story.html) > . . . As long as you have time to waste responding to my inconsequential admonition, how about responding to a genuine challenge? Prove to us that you are not in fact a coward. Also, as long as you’re sticking around to hurl insults at the OP, how about doing him the courtesy of responding to his actual question, instead of dodging like a not particularly brave person. > [@fervour](#): > > Hey, **Clothahump** , tell me that **I shouldn’t be able get health insurance through my husband’s policy**. Tell me that my 21 year relationship doesn’t matter. Or tell me that **I should be able to get health insurance through my relationship because of my legally officiated marriage**. > > Don’t ignore the challenge----otherwise your just a coward. ---
**Author:** ![Marci\_Al](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Marci\_Al](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marci_Al)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/113 "2017-07-06T09:01:49Z")
Your person and rights are not defined by your sexual preference. That could work both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/114 "2017-07-06T13:42:23Z")
> [@Marci\_Al](#): > > Your person and rights are not defined by your sexual preference. **That could work both ways.** _Huh?_ I know you’re putting this to the OP, but, _huh_? What is that last part supposed to mean? I’m straight, married, and a bit of an ass man. I’m trying to understand what that statement would mean if someone directed it to me. What would it mean if someone said that to you? Maybe going out on a limb here, but are you suggesting that the OP is demanding rights or privileges over and above what most folks have? ---
**Author:** ![Marci\_Al](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Marci\_Al](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marci_Al)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/115 "2017-07-07T04:08:51Z")
Best to look at it in the context of faith and religion. Your God doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ who or what you lust for as long as you don’t break any explicit law. In society, basic rights are not defined by gender or any kind of preference. Religious beliefs and practices are long in getting inclusion. But marriage? Much of our society regards marriage as a religious ceremony, though laws iron out kinks (age, consanguinity, capacity issues, etc.) The law can give you (a gay couple) full inclusive rights by those arguments. But it could also invoke existing laws that certainly exclude gay couples. Or, it could interpret marriage as a strictly heterosexual union, citing the present structures in society supporting married couples (mainly related to conception, child birth, upbringing, inheritance, etc.) Beyond that, I’m just babbling (a lot harder to take a middle stance than you think.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/116 "2017-07-07T14:04:17Z")
You were babbling before that too. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/117 "2017-07-07T15:05:58Z")
> [@Marci\_Al](#): > > . . . The law can give you (a gay couple) full inclusive rights by those arguments. But it could also invoke existing laws that certainly exclude gay couples. Or, it could interpret marriage as a strictly heterosexual union, citing the present structures in society supporting married couples (mainly related to conception, child birth, upbringing, inheritance, etc.) I think you’ve muddied your argument by bringing religion into it, but leaving that aside . . . I \*may \*understand what you _mean_, but I still have no idea what you’re _getting at_. (So, I’m shifting from a straight “huh?” to a “hmmm?”) If I understand the basic gist of your argument, you’re essentially saying that the law will or won’t afford you rights and the protecting thereof according how it is written and interpreted, regardless of your sexuality? As far as I can see, **Fervour** is not claiming entitlement to any special benefits _because_ he is gay. **Fervor** and his husband are two legally married men. They should therefore be entitled to all the rights that the law extends to a married couple, regardless of what may set their hearts aflutter. As to what you are \*driving at \*with your comment that “it could work _both ways_”, as I said, I still have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/118 "2017-07-07T17:25:24Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > . . . . > > As far as I can see, **Fervour** is not claiming entitlement to any special benefits _because_ he is gay. **Fervor** and his husband are two legally married men. They should therefore be entitled to all the rights that the law extends to a married couple, regardless of what may set their hearts aflutter. > > . . . . Thank you, **Not Carlson**. My issue with the Texas Supreme Court is that it was totally in their purview to make the right decision. My guess is that for political reasons they chose to pass the decision to someone else. But I do appreciate **Bricker** and **Scumpup** humanizing people who have differing views from me. This is the only thread that I am following due to my current health issues. I had said to myself that I wasn’t going to post again. It’s funny how your friends can get you to say something that your adversaries could never get you to admit. I DO have health insurance through my husband’s policy in my state. Apparently my particular version of arthritis won’t kill you----it just torments you. I empathize with people who are caught in limbo while other people have an academic conversation. Mercifully, I am not one of those who are caught in limbo. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/119 "2017-07-08T15:48:22Z")
**Fervour** , sorry to hear about your health troubles. I can understand how that would make the court’s passing the buck on this issue particularly galling. Just reading that there are people out there fighting to deprive others of their equal right to health insurance sticks in my craw, even when it doesn’t affect my own life. Anyway, best wishes to you and yours. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239/120 "2017-07-09T04:36:55Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I’m pretty good at picking out the next stool sample to get banned, and, well…you’re it. > Even before Okrahoma, but only because he’s a ninja and you’re not. No, Morgenstern, the only thing you are good at is being a braying jackass. You bring nothing of value to a discussion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-again-proves-it-is-the-asshole-of-the-us/790239.md?page=7)