# Texas - An Evil State **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107 "2006-05-02T15:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/21 "2006-05-02T16:02:05Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Not a fair comparison. This from you? The story to which you linked noted that hired professionals were not keeping up on knowledge essential to their jobs. Nothing in the story indicated that the people of Texas had voted to accept bad testimony. Nothing in the story indicated that the people of Texas had deliberately chosen to only hire people who were not staying current on their training. For that matter, there is no evidence presented that the arson investigators deliberately chose to maintain their ignorance on some topics. I agree that those guys should be sent out for training. I would agree that it might be wise if all investigators were required to maintain ongoing training. (Have you any evidence that this situation is unique to Texas?) I will even agree on the broader principal that the state of Texas is fairly lax in providing due process in criminal cases, particularly capital cases. However, you have taken a single incident of less than professional behavior (with no indication of deliberate malice or even evidence of dereliction of duty) and have used it to blast out a condemnation of every human in one state. Talk about bad comparisons. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/22 "2006-05-02T16:04:03Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > The blood lust of Texas strikes again. Every citizen of Texas is to blame for this. The laws the citizens have allowed to be passed are evil. And the Texans that oppose their state’s bloodlust are the worst. You know it is wrong but you don’t do enough to stop it. This man’s blood in on your hands. > > Texas = 1 step above Iran in justice > > Texans you should be ashamed. **Acqua** , thank you for the blinding display of ignorance on your part. Would you please post proof that every citizen of Texas suffers from “blood lust”? This will come as a shock to you, but the Texas Penal Code isn’t all that different from the Penal Codes of the other states. Have mistakes been made? I’m sure they have. But guess what? They’ve been made in other states as well. Why aren’t your panties in a knot over that? In the words of the famous philosoper Confuscious: Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/23 "2006-05-02T16:04:17Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > How about peaceful protest? Remember that guy that burned himself in protest over Vietnam. If 500 Texans did that, one each day on in front of the Texas state house, this problem would be solved. > > Hell, it wouldn’t even take 500. More than 5. Well, I’ve always said there’s nothing suicide fixes that a good homicide couldn’t put to rights. We could always drag out the lawmakers and set fire to THEM… > [@](#): > > And that is an extreme example. Other things could be done. Because nobody ever, ever protests in Austin or in front of the state capitol. [This](http://www.workers.org/2005/us/texas-1117/), for example, never happened. > [@](#): > > How about the good Texans refuse to work until the justice system is fixed. …because…they have to eat and feed their children? Why don’t you refuse to work until all states no longer use the death penalty? Or until the war in Iraq is ended? Or until Mommy gives you back your rattle? > [@](#): > > The point is you have to stop this. By any peaceful means. But – but we’re TEXANS! We can’t use peaceful means! ☹😕 :rolleyes: and yes, for the humor-impaired, my suggestion of hauling Rick Perry out by his hair and dousing him with kerosene is NOT serious. that’s what propane is for ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/24 "2006-05-02T16:10:03Z")
I missed this on my first read-through. > [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Texas = 1 step above Iran in justice WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO! WOOHOO! We beat Iran! Take that, Ahmadinejad! 😛😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/25 "2006-05-02T16:16:54Z")
Tell you what, Acqua. Why don’t YOU go down to Austin and set yourself on fire in front of the state capitol building? I’m sure that with your brave example maybe another person like you who believes that Texans–all Texans–are evil, will go down and set THEMselves on fire in protest too. You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and they won’t listen to him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they’re both faggots and they won’t listen to either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people going down to Austin and setting themselves on fire. They may think it’s an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day going down to Austin and setting themselves on fire. And friends they may think it’s a movement. And that’s what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/26 "2006-05-02T16:19:36Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Or you can do something about it. > > YOU ARE PART OF A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT IS MURDERING PEOPLE. > > Don’t you care? > > Please stop it. If that wasn’t bad enough, everyone at this site is responsible for you being so stupid. Everyone, listen: YOU ARE PART OF AN INTERNET THAT ALLOWS MOUTH-BREATHING DUMBSHITS TO FEEL SUPERIOR AND COMPASSIONATE SIMPLY BY YELLING AT OTHER PEOPLE ON A MESSAGE BOARD. ALSO, SOME OF THE PORNOGRAPHY IS VERY GROSS. We’ve got to do something about this, post haste. This problem belongs to all of us – there’s no ‘I’ in Internet. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/27 "2006-05-02T16:23:55Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > I missed this on my first read-through. > > WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO! WOOHOO! > > We beat Iran! Take that, Ahmadinejad! 😛😃 Well, that depends on where you’re racing to. You may have some work to do. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/28 "2006-05-02T16:25:38Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Or you can do something about it. > > YOU ARE PART OF A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT IS MURDERING PEOPLE. And you aren’t? Also, since when is self-immolation _non_-violent? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/29 "2006-05-02T16:27:41Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And you aren’t? > > Also, since when is self-immolation _non_-violent? Hey, you’re part of a message board that has dumb people on it. This is as much your fault as **Acqua** ’s. More, if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/30 "2006-05-02T16:27:42Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > How about peaceful protest? Remember that guy that burned himself in protest over Vietnam. If 500 Texans did that, one each day on in front of the Texas state house, this problem would be solved. \ :smack: **"That guy who burned himself in protest over Vietnam."** Maybe it’s because I was born in Vietnam (and currently live in Texas) that I can’t help but swing at your underhand pitch. Do you have ANY idea what the fuck you’re talking about, or is a Rage Against The Machine album cover the extent of your historical literacy in that area? Do you know what the man in that famous picture was protesting? Do you know who he was or what he was? Do you understand that his self-immolation didn’t solve a damned thing? When does your guest membership expire? ---
**Author:** ![Acqua\_Minerale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Acqua\_Minerale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acqua_Minerale)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/31 "2006-05-02T16:29:52Z")
Just to let you know. My state, Illinois, addressed this problem already. I was part of that. I voted for Ryan - a flawed yet great man who is being attacked for political reasons. Why can’t you do the same Texas? > [@](#): > > If that wasn’t bad enough, everyone at this site is responsible for you being so stupid. Everyone, listen: > > YOU ARE PART OF AN INTERNET THAT ALLOWS MOUTH-BREATHING DUMBSHITS TO FEEL SUPERIOR AND COMPASSIONATE SIMPLY BY YELLING AT OTHER PEOPLE ON A MESSAGE BOARD. ALSO, SOME OF THE PORNOGRAPHY IS VERY GROSS. > > We’ve got to do something about this, post haste. This problem belongs to all of us – there’s no ‘I’ in Internet. The internet has a different structure than the political structure of a state. But aI find it funny you attack me instead of the Texans who are murdering people. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/32 "2006-05-02T16:31:21Z")
Wow, another “Texas sucks” thread. We haven’t had one of those for at least a month or two. Fortunately this one was completely original! Marc ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/33 "2006-05-02T16:34:51Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Hey, you’re part of a message board that has dumb people on it. This is as much your fault as **Acqua** ’s. More, if you ask me. You’re right, **Miller** paid. I blame **Miller** for subsidizing this moron. Wait a minute; I paid twice as much as **Miller**. Maybe it’s my fault. Let’s pit all paying members. ---
**Author:** ![Acqua\_Minerale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Acqua\_Minerale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acqua_Minerale)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/34 "2006-05-02T16:35:33Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > **"That guy who burned himself in protest over Vietnam."** Maybe it’s because I was born in Vietnam (and currently live in Texas) that I can’t help but swing at your underhand pitch. Do you have ANY idea what the fuck you’re talking about, or is a Rage Against The Machine album cover the extent of your historical literacy in that area? Do you know what the man in that famous picture was protesting? Do you know who he was or what he was? Do you understand that his self-immolation didn’t solve a damned thing? He was a Quaker protesting the war. I don’t know anything about RATM. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/35 "2006-05-02T16:36:10Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And you aren’t? > > Also, since when is self-immolation _non_-violent? I knew a guy who would take a lighter, push down the gas button to pump some of the inflammable stuff into his hand, and then flick the lighter so that he would, if briefly, have a little fireball in his hand. It looked really cool. So… that’s how. > [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Just to let you know. My state, Illinois, addressed this problem already. I was part of that. I voted for Ryan - a flawed yet great man who is being attacked for political reasons. > > Why can’t you do the same Texas? You’re ignoring the part where this wasn’t a decision made by people we elected? That instead it was incompetence on the part of the INVESTIGATORS? Or is this just a general death penalty rant? In which case, fine, rant at the supporters of the death penalty, and they will assuredly answer in kind. Don’t demonize a whole state because something happened in it. > [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > …I find it funny you attack me instead of the Texans who are murdering people. I find it sad that you don’t understand why. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/36 "2006-05-02T16:37:25Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > How about peaceful protest? Remember that guy that burned himself in protest over Vietnam. If 500 Texans did that, one each day on in front of the Texas state house, this problem would be solved. > > Hell, it wouldn’t even take 500. More than 5. Wouldn’t _their_ blood then be on **your** hands for advocating suicide as a reasonable means of political protest? _Acqua Minerale - An Evil State of Mind_. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/37 "2006-05-02T16:38:33Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > Just to let you know. My state, Illinois, addressed this problem already. I was part of that. I voted for Ryan - a flawed yet great man who is being attacked for political reasons. If by “political reasons” you mean accepting bribes and kickbacks, then yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/38 "2006-05-02T16:38:57Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > \…Texans who are murdering people. You keep using that word. As is often said around here, I don’t think it means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/39 "2006-05-02T16:39:42Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and they won’t listen to him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they’re both faggots and they won’t listen to either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people going down to Austin and setting themselves on fire. They may think it’s an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day going down to Austin and setting themselves on fire. And friends they may think it’s a movement. So, you want to know if Texas has rehabilitated itself? ---
**Author:** ![Acqua\_Minerale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Acqua\_Minerale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acqua_Minerale)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107/40 "2006-05-02T16:39:54Z")
> [@UncleBeer](#): > > Wouldn’t _their_ blood then be on **your** hands for advocating suicide as a reasonable means of political protest? No they would be consuming their lives to purchase something. It would be their choice. Suicide is different from murder. Suicide is good. Murder is bad. Peeople who commit suicide are noble. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-an-evil-state/355107.md?page=3)