# Texas Federal Judge strikes down FDA approval of the abortion pill (competing lawsuit filed, outcome uncertain)

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**Created:** [April 8, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351 "2023-04-08T01:32:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/61 "2023-04-15T13:49:17Z")

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The pharmaceutical industry is going to be a mess if this doesn’t get thrown out by the Thomas Roberts led dishonest crooked supreme court. I’ll join a class action suit against viagra. Not because I really have anything against the drug, but just because.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/62 "2023-04-15T14:04:57Z")

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Seconded.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/63 "2023-04-15T14:17:24Z")

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Remember when anti-abortion rights types were screeching about “judicial overreach” in reference to Roe v. Wade?

Seems kind of ironic now.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/64 "2023-04-15T14:37:18Z")

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It would only be ironic if weren’t intentional.

“It’s not _x_ when our side does it.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/65 "2023-04-17T04:44:52Z")

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And now it looks like the judge concealed his role in writing an article about his views on transgender issues, which would have been relevant to questions he got in his confirmation hearings.

Gift link to WaPo article:

> **[The controversial article Matthew Kacsmaryk did not disclose to the Senate](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/15/matthew-kacsmaryk-law-review/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjMxNDU5NzI2IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MTcwNDAwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4Mjk5OTk5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgxNzA0MDAwLCJqdGkiOiJhZTEzMmM5Yi02NmZkLTRkNTctYjBmOC1jMDcwNjUwMDBiZTciLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vcG9saXRpY3MvMjAyMy8wNC8xNS9tYXR0aGV3LWthY3NtYXJ5ay1sYXctcmV2aWV3LyJ9.J8YM6SbUgFg_9gJ5SIPYVqR6hGYWOnFOLs5mWFav65c&itid=gfta)**
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> The judge who delivered a high-stakes abortion pills ruling last week removed his name from a law review article during his judicial nomination process, emails obtained by The Post show.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/66 "2023-04-20T00:56:12Z")

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> **[Mifepristone: US Supreme Court delays abortion pill access decision](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65320035)**
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> Millions will lose access to mifepristone on Friday unless the conservative-dominated court acts.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/67 "2023-04-20T22:21:09Z")

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More news that seems to indicate this judges memory is very selectively faulty when it comes to papers and interviews that might actually have bearing on his ability to dispense justice impartially.

> **[Judge who suspended abortion pill failed to disclose interviews that...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/20/politics/kfile-judge-kacsmaryk-disclose-interviews-nomination/index.html)**
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> The federal district judge who first suspended the US Food and Drug Administration's approval of the so-called abortion pill mifepristone failed to disclose during his Senate confirmation process two interviews on Christian talk radio where he...

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/68 "2023-04-21T01:12:22Z")

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I would like to live in a fantasy world where judges are required to make rulings on cases brought before them **solely** on the basis of existing laws and precedents, and are forbidden from even considering their own personal beliefs.Violation of this should be grounds for immediate removal from office, and possible prosecution for malfeasance.with appropriate punishment.

I would also like a kitten and a gallon of ice cream which does not affect my lactose intolerance and results in weight loss.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/69 "2023-04-21T22:56:56Z")

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The court allows abortion pill to stay.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/70 "2023-04-21T23:03:45Z")

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[CNN story](https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/21/politics/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone/index.html) on the Supreme Court’s ruling.

Adding: Alito and ol’ Clarence dissented from the brief unsigned order.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/71 "2023-04-21T23:12:42Z")

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Of course they did.

If I read the CNN article aright (no guarantees), this ruling restores the status quo while appeals play out. I know there have been appeals challenging Kacsmaryk’s ruling; have there been any from the other side?

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/72 "2023-04-22T01:20:07Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Adding: Alito and ol’ Clarence dissented from the brief unsigned order.

Did they write why they dissented? (I tried Googling it but either they didn’t or it is too soon to be out there)

I’m curious if this is them opposing abortion or opposing the FDA (or both).

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/73 "2023-04-22T01:43:27Z")

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Thomas didn’t give reasons.

Alito said that there was no prejudice to anyone if the stricter pre-2016 standard accepted by the 5th Circuit would apply until the case was decided.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/74 "2023-05-18T07:02:53Z")

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> **[Conservative appeals judges tear into Biden administration defense of...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/mifepristone-abortion-appeal-5th-circuit/index.html)**
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> A federal appeals court tore apart the Biden administration’s arguments for why the federal government’s regulatory approval of an abortion pill should be left in place – signaling the three-judge panel appointed by Republican presidents will side...

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/75 "2023-05-18T11:38:36Z")

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Just from experience, sometimes Courts of Appeals’ actions during oral arguments signals what they will decide. Other times, not so much. But they also can reach completely batshit decisions contrary to the facts and law. So who knows (other than the judges and their clerks)?

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill-competing-lawsuit-filed-outcome-uncertain/982351/76 "2023-05-18T11:44:58Z")

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_Slate_ seems to think “batshit” is an accurate description, and that it’s pointless anyway because SCOTUS already told them no.

> **[The 5th Circuit Is Furious That the Supreme Court Put It in Timeout](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/texas-circuit-rage-supreme-court-mifepristone-abortion-pill.html)**
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> The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is where law goes to die.

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