# Texas Rape Victim Was Jailed for Fear She Would Not Testify, Lawsuit Says

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**Created:** [July 23, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660 "2016-07-23T07:35:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/1 "2016-07-23T07:35:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A rape victim who was jailed in Texas for nearly a month because prosecutors feared she would not return to testify after having a mental breakdown on the stand has sued the Harris County district attorney’s office, county officials and jail employees.
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> The woman, identified as Jane Doe in the lawsuit, was held in the general population at the county jail — the same place where the rape suspect, Keith Hendricks, was housed. There, the suit says, she was misclassified as the perpetrator of a sexual assault — not as a victim — attacked by an inmate, denied medication and punched in the face by a guard.

[http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says.html?_r=0)

It’s news to me that rape victims can be forced to testify when they don’t want to testify. This is crazy.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/2 "2016-07-23T08:01:31Z")

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A material witness warrant was the legal basis for this.

[QUOTE=US Code]  
If it appears from an affidavit filed by a party that the testimony of a person is material in a criminal proceeding, and if it is shown that it may become impracticable to secure the presence of the person by subpoena, a judicial officer may order the arrest of the person and treat the person in accordance with the provisions of section 3142 of this title. No material witness may be detained because of inability to comply with any condition of release if the testimony of such witness can adequately be secured by deposition, and if further detention is not necessary to prevent a failure of justice.  
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> **[Material witness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_witness)**
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> In American criminal law, a material witness is a person with information alleged to be material concerning a criminal proceeding. The authority to detain material witnesses dates to the First Judiciary Act of 1789, but the Bail Reform Act of 1984 most recently amended the text of the statute, and it is now codified at 18 U.S.C. § 3144. The most recent version allows material witnesses to be held to ensure the giving of their testimony in criminal proceedings or to a grand jury.
> Since Septembe...

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/3 "2016-07-23T14:02:13Z")

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This quote from [the article on the NPR website](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/22/487073132/rape-survivor-sues-after-texas-authorities-jailed-her-for-a-month) is somewhat disturbing:

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> The employee booking her into Harris County Jail identified her as a “defendant in a sexual assault case, rather than the victim.” That impacted her treatment from jail staff, as the complaint reads:
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> ```
> "The Harris County Jail psychiatric staff tormented Jane Doe and caused her extreme emotional distress and mental anguish by further defaming her, falsely insisting to her that she was being charged with sexual assault, and refusing to acknowledge her status as an innocent rape victim."
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> ```

Is it normal for the psychiatric staff to “torment” prisoners? I would think that’s not what they are supposed to be there for. But then again, this is Texas.

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**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/4 "2016-07-23T14:23:41Z")

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That’s kind of an extreme case, but ask any rape victim about the horrors they go through after they report the crime and you’ll understand why it’s such an under-reported crime. We haven’t come all that far from when rape victims were routinely executed.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/5 "2016-07-23T14:33:46Z")

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> [@spamforbrains](#):
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> We haven’t come all that far from when rape victims were routinely executed.

Care to expand on this? 'Cause like, I’m totally unaware of any period in American history when rape victims were routinely executed. Educate me!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/6 "2016-07-23T15:19:59Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> A material witness warrant was the legal basis for this.
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> [Material witness - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_witness)

I’ve never understood the concept of forcing an uncooperative witness to cooperate.

At trial, the witness testifies, “the room was dark, I didn’t really see anything” or “I really don’t remember any details now”.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/7 "2016-07-23T18:39:57Z")

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> [@spamforbrains](#):
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> We haven’t come all that far from when rape victims were\*\* routinely executed\*\*.

In America? Or Taliban Afghanistan?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/8 "2016-07-25T15:26:19Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’ve never understood the concept of forcing an uncooperative witness to cooperate.
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> At trial, the witness testifies, “the room was dark, I didn’t really see anything” or “I really don’t remember any details now”.

What you may be missing is that this is a sexual assault case. And after all, people who report sexual assaults and then decide that they don’t want to cooperate in a prosecution are lying life-destroying liars who like to tell lies and destroy lives and they should be in jail.

If we don’t force those liars to cooperate, they’ll just keep destroying everyone’s life and lying.

The good news is we’ve been treating them so badly that I’m pretty sure they’re all going to see the error of their ways pretty soon and then we won’t have this problem anymore.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/9 "2016-07-25T15:52:13Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’ve never understood the concept of forcing an uncooperative witness to cooperate.
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> At trial, the witness testifies, “the room was dark, I didn’t really see anything” or “I really don’t remember any details now”.

In this case the victim did testify and the rapist was convicted and sentenced to two life sentences.

The logic behind the DA’s actions is solid and justifiable. What’s not justifiable is booting a mentally ill person in the midst of a breakdown from a hospital because she reached a 10 day limit. Nor is putting her in jail instead of some other arrangement.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/10 "2016-07-25T17:48:19Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> The logic behind the DA’s actions is solid and justifiable.

Absolutely, as long as you don’t give a flying fuck about the fact that the victim is a human being. And the victim.

But we know what the DA cares about:

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> In a video statement that has been uploaded to YouTube, Devon Anderson, the county district attorney, said the rape victim had suffered through a life-threatening mental health crisis and had expressed her intention during the trial not to testify again.
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> “If nothing was done to prevent the victim from leaving Harris County in the middle of trial, a serial rapist would have gone free, and her life would have been at risk while homeless on the street,” Ms. Anderson says in the video.
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> “This was an extraordinarily difficult and unusual situation. There were no apparent alternatives that would ensure both the victim’s safety and her appearance at trial.”

Her participation in this prosecution was threatening her life! And since we care so much about her safety, we had no alternative but to put her in jail and force her to come back and keep doing the thing that was killing her! No apparent alternative, as long as you refuse to think about it for three seconds!

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/11 "2016-07-25T18:39:01Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Absolutely, as long as you don’t give a flying fuck about the fact that the victim is a human being. And the victim.
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> But we know what the DA cares about:
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> Her participation in this prosecution was threatening her life! And since we care so much about her safety, we had no alternative but to put her in jail and force her to come back and keep doing the thing that was killing her! No apparent alternative, as long as you refuse to think about it for three seconds!

What about the other folks this now convicted serial rapist is likely to have attacked, had he walked free because she didn’t testify? Seems like they ought to rate some consideration, to weigh against the sufferings of the witness.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/12 "2016-07-25T19:03:10Z")

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I’m considering them right now. What about it?

She has an obligation to put herself in an extremely unsafe situation on behalf of future victims who will then be forced into the same series of unsafe circumstances by the same fucked up system?

It really is a wonderful thing the way that future hypothetical needs of a hypothetical future rape victim can trump the very concrete, very immediate needs of an actual has-already-been-raped victim. Maybe the next one will be a better victim.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/13 "2016-07-25T19:21:48Z")

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Tell me there’s a cartoon villain involved somewhere in this story, twirling his moustache.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/14 "2016-07-25T19:28:35Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> I’m considering them right now. What about it?
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> She has an obligation to put herself in an extremely unsafe situation on behalf of future victims who will then be forced into the same series of unsafe circumstances by the same fucked up system?
> 
> It really is a wonderful thing the way that future hypothetical needs of a hypothetical future rape victim can trump the very concrete, very immediate needs of an actual has-already-been-raped victim. Maybe the next one will be a better victim.

Take this hypothetical: you are in the DA’s shoes. You have a choice. You can either do what the DA did in this case, or you could not do it.

1. If you do what the DA did in this case, a person right now who stands accused of serial rape will very likely be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and locked up. However, the victim and witness will suffer further trauma.

2. If you don’t do it, that same person will very likely not be convicted. They will walk free. From your studies of criminal pathology, you know that men who commit serial rape in the past are very likely to continue doing so until caught. Thus, if he walks, he will likely commit further rapes, until he is caught again.

So, assuming in this hypothetical that these are your only two choices, which will you choose?

In either case, is it utterly incredible or reprehensible that a DA, faced with those two choices, would choose the first and not the second?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/15 "2016-07-25T19:33:24Z")

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But that’s a false choice. From the article in the OP, “Instead of putting the woman in jail, officials should have arranged with a community organization or provided a hotel room with a sheriff’s deputy as a chaperone, Mr. [Sean] Buckley said.” (Sean Buckley is her attorney.) The article also mentions that in a similar case in California, the witness was monitored with a GPS device.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/16 "2016-07-25T19:38:36Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Take this hypothetical

Or better yet, deal with the reality:

> [@](#):
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> The woman, identified as Jane Doe in the lawsuit, was held in the general population at the county jail — the same place where the rape suspect, Keith Hendricks, was housed. There, the suit says, she was misclassified as the perpetrator of a sexual assault — not as a victim — attacked by an inmate, denied medication and punched in the face by a guard.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> 1. If you do what the DA did in this case …
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> 2. If you don’t do it …

How about

1. Use your power within the system to help transform Texas into a civilized state instead of letting it continue to wallow in a festering barbarism the same Texans condemn in “non-Christian” nations.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

I didn’t try Googling “Jane Doe.” Any bets on the skin color of the victim?

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/17 "2016-07-25T19:52:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> But that’s a false choice. From the article in the OP, “Instead of putting the woman in jail, officials should have arranged with a community organization or provided a hotel room with a sheriff’s deputy as a chaperone, Mr. [Sean] Buckley said.” (Sean Buckley is her attorney.) The article also mentions that in a similar case in California, the witness was monitored with a GPS device.

Agreed, but that’s avoiding the issue I was raising: put up in an community organization or hotel room, or use of a GPS monitor still means a legally forced testimony - which I understood to be the main objection.

Everyone acknowledges (I think) that being shoved in jail and mis-identified as a perp rather than the victim was a massive screw-up and reprehensible.

So, which is it - legally forced testimony, or not?

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/18 "2016-07-25T19:53:57Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Or better yet, deal with the reality:
> 
> How about
> 
> 1. Use your power within the system to help transform Texas into a civilized state instead of letting it continue to wallow in a festering barbarism the same Texans condemn in “non-Christian” nations.
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> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> I didn’t try Googling “Jane Doe.” Any bets on the skin color of the victim?

Same question to you. Legally forced testimony - or not? You decide.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/19 "2016-07-25T19:54:01Z")

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The discussion is somewhat at cross purposes, I think.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the specifics of the treatment that this woman got were any other than horrifically inappropriate.

But then there’s the ethical question of the principles at stake with _any degree_ of coercion of testimony by the state, the _bona fide_ question of balancing the freedom of the current victim to choose whether to participate with the interests of society (potential future victims) that Malthus raised.

ETA - I see Mathus just posted almost the same thing, nm.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-rape-victim-was-jailed-for-fear-she-would-not-testify-lawsuit-says/760660/20 "2016-07-25T20:04:17Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Take this hypothetical: you are in the DA’s shoes. You have a choice. You can either do what the DA did in this case, or you could not do it.

I choose not to do it. Oh, wait, there’s more.

> [@](#):
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> 1. If you do what the DA did in this case, a person right now who stands accused of serial rape will very likely be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and locked up. However, the victim and witness will suffer further trauma.
> 
> 2. If you don’t do it, that same person will very likely not be convicted. They will walk free. From your studies of criminal pathology, you know that men who commit serial rape in the past are very likely to continue doing so until caught. Thus, if he walks, he will likely commit further rapes, until he is caught again.
> 
> So, assuming in this hypothetical that these are your only two choices, which will you choose?

I choose not to do it.

Now, I get to point out that your hypothetical is not only contrary to the facts and presents a massively false dilemma, but that it also doesn’t actually set out (even by its own grossly unfair terms) what the choice is. What exactly is the “it” you’re asking me if I’ll do or not do?

As soon as you start to answer that question, you’ll see immediately just how many other choices are available.

Editing to add – ah, I see. The question is whether I’ll compel testimony or not? I don’t think I’d have to, honestly. She already began providing testimony. It seems pretty clear to me that in an appropriate, safe and supportive setting, she wanted to testify. My job would be to ensure that setting existed. If I failed, and she didn’t want to testify anymore, then I guess I fucked up. So: would I do what the DA did? No. I’d do my job responsibly.

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