# Texas women are inducing their own abortions **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 18, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843 "2015-11-18T00:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/101 "2015-11-23T16:22:36Z")
I assume you mean that in the same sense that Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms or abortions. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/102 "2015-11-23T18:54:45Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I assume you mean that in the same sense that Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms or abortions. > > Regards, > Shodan PP gave me a referral for a mammogram, without which I could not have gotten a mammogram, scheduled me for the mammogram, without which I would not have gotten a mammogram, and gave me a voucher to pay for the mammogram, without which I would not have been able to afford a mammogram. They do perform abortions. Not at all of their offices, and not as a majority of their work, but they do them, thank goodness. So no, not like that at all. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/103 "2015-11-23T19:43:57Z")
I sit corrected on the abortion thing, but I assume you would agree that it is correct to say that Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms. And that ultrasound and STI testing and referrals do not constitute prenatal care. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/104 "2015-11-23T19:48:13Z")
Now I’m confused. Are you trying to say that Planned Parenthood doesn’t do real prenatal care? Because they do. With doctors and nurse practitioners and everything. [https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/prenatal-care](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/prenatal-care) ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/105 "2015-11-23T20:14:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I sit corrected on the abortion thing, but I assume you would agree that it is correct to say that Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms. And that ultrasound and STI testing and referrals do not constitute prenatal care. > > Regards, > Shodan Do crisis pregnancy centers give referrals? Can you detail what prenatal care they do provide? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/106 "2015-11-23T21:32:39Z")
> [@Futurist110](#): > > Actually, a better question would be whether or not firefighters (who, as far as I know, are the employees of some government–please correct me if I am wrong in regards to this) should be legally required to save 60 frozen zygotes or one 6-week-old baby from a burning building (and assuming that they cannot save both). . . . Good enough; the same disconnect in the pro-life morality would be seen, I think. How many pro-life partisans would say, “The firefighter must save the sixty embryos and let the baby burn?” Instead, wouldn’t nearly all say, “The embryos cannot feel pain, but the baby can, and so the firefighters must save the baby?” In saying this, they are giving away the fact that embryos are not the “same as babies” in their thoughts, beliefs, and public policies. This obviously requires some projection, as pro-life partisans have been reluctant to answer the question. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843/107 "2015-11-24T15:01:48Z")
Anyone wanting to see how disgusting the anti-abortion is need go no further than [Nancy Klein](http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-13/news/mn-128_1_head-injuries) She was pregnant when she was in an accident and left in a coma. Her doctors agreed an abortion would help her. Her husband consented. Her parents consented. Two attorneys from the anti-abortion front contested it because they knew Ms. Klein did not want an abortion. Two attorneys who had never seen or heard of her until this happened. They KNEW better than her husband and parents what she wanted. And let’s give the fetus the right to use a woman’s body without her permission. And stalkers. And rapists. And everyone else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-women-are-inducing-their-own-abortions/737843.md?page=5)