# Thank God for our police force, saving us from the evil that is strawberries... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2000, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096 "2000-08-12T08:11:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/1 "2000-08-12T08:11:35Z")
[Dance club busted for encouraging sexual acts](http://www.msnbc.com/local/wbbh/344282.asp) I’m so glad our vigilant police force is protecting us from the immorality that is a strawberry-eating contest. Lord knows what would have happened if they hadn’t stepped in and stopped these simulated sex acts. People might have ended up having actual sex! _gasp_ :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bluemonchichi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Bluemonchichi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bluemonchichi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/2 "2000-08-12T08:21:19Z")
LOL!!! I wish I lived in a place safe enough for the cops to frequent bars and watch…I mean arrest people for “eating” strawberries. **sarcasm** \* ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/3 "2000-08-12T11:20:03Z")
God I love America!!! [sup]a view from the other side of the pond[/sup] 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/4 "2000-08-12T11:53:46Z")
Sorry Sannibel, but it _is_ ilegal to eat a girl’s pussy on stage in front of everyone. I will save the whole “victimless crime” discussion for GD. That is like when, damn what was the name of the Rap group, were arrested for getting blowjobs on stage. Why should this be allowed? Because it is a night club and everyone there is adults? So then why don’t we just allow sex houses and brothels to do business also. Tampa is pretty much the Capitol of Strip Clubs, but even they do not allow oral sex. … Well ok, not legally anyway! When clubs get out of line, the police need to step in to keep everyone in check. Otherwise it will continue to get worse, and pretty soon people will be fucking each other on stage! ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/5 "2000-08-12T12:01:48Z")
And of course, two people fucking on stage would lead to the collapse of western civilization. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/6 "2000-08-12T15:31:00Z")
I agree with matt. People are too damn concerned with what others do. If you don’t like simulated sex acts, ( or even real ones ) don’t go to a club that features them. I suggest you go to church instead, I can almost guarantee that nobody will slip up to the alter, order a blood of Christ spritzer, and ask you if you come there often. :rolleyes: I am sick and tired of narrow minded, fundamental followers of Paul imposing their antiquated morals on everyone else. The essence of the teachinings of _Christ_ is acceptance and MYOB. I suggest that you try to be more like him, not hate filled and judgemental like Paul. ---
**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/7 "2000-08-12T16:04:06Z")
I got this when I tried to access the page: > [@](#): > > Microsoft VBScript runtime error ‘800a01a8’ > > Object required: ‘ad’ > > /local/toplocal.asp, line 91 Can someone tell me what the article detailed? ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/8 "2000-08-12T17:04:58Z")
**Matt** and **wierddave** You guys are starting the “victimless crime” debate I wanted to leave for GD. But oh well, I will comment. > [@](#): > > And of course, two people fucking on stage would lead to the collapse of western civilization. Of course not. But niether would allowing prostitution to be legalized. But these things are **still** ilegal! Why is it people never complain about the cops getting the crack whores off the street? > [@](#): > > People are too damn concerned with what others do. If you don’t like simulated sex acts, ( or even real ones ) don’t go to a club that features them. Wow! I would expect a much better argument from you wierddave. That is usually what people say to defend free speech. “If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Or change the channel, or whatever” Matt, this is much different. Your argument sucks. Why not just say, “If you dont like crack houses, just stay away from them. They are not bothering you! If you have such a problem with a whore house, do not go to them!” Ignoring ilegal activity is not the solution. Tampa Police raid these Asian massage parlors here all the time. Why? Because the ladies are having sex with the clients. This is ilegal. No, it will not cause the destruction of man but it is ilegal. Why should we just ignore it with the excuse, “Well people who do not agree with it should just not go there.” Maybe in the meantime we should start some kiddie porn rings and even open a club where underage children strip and fuck each other on stage for money. People who do like that sort of thing should just stay home or go to church. A couple people having sex with children is not going to be the collapse of such a great nation. Fuck you both!! > [@](#): > > I am sick and tired of narrow minded, fundamental followers of Paul imposing their antiquated morals on everyone else. I don’t know who the fuck Paul is, or what he has to do with this. I suppose you think I am some awful bible thumper who wants to control everyone’s lives. I have never been to church for one thing. Next, I am a VERY open minded person. People are different, cultures are different. But we cannot just go allowing people to break laws that they feel are unjust. Why do we get to choose which laws to break? Should people be allowed to sacrifice humans just because they are worshipping some fucked-up god? If you allow one law to be broken, where does it stop. Also, I do not care that people do this. If they wanted to throw a private party and have multiple orgies on stage, let them, that is their perogative. But not at a licensed business. That is just bullshit!! ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/9 "2000-08-12T17:08:14Z")
**Sanibelman,** has the God-Fearing, Flag-Rubbing, My-Country-Right-Or-Wrong High Sherrif of Lee County John J. McDougal seized control of the Fort Myers Police Department? I remember the Sherrif’s Department helicopter being used to bust women who dared sunbathe topless on (then) all but deserted Upper Captiva. Busting folk for having fun with strawberries would be right up his alley. ---
**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/10 "2000-08-12T17:14:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by weirddave \* > \*\*I can almost guarantee that nobody will slip up to the alter, order a blood of Christ spritzer, and ask you if you come there often. \*\* That was really funny! Thanks for making the coffee almost come out my nose! ---
**Author:** ![Grendel69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7bcc69/32.png) [@Grendel69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grendel69)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/11 "2000-08-12T17:16:23Z")
Bear: I think he was referring to the apostle who is responsible for lots of the christian mores about sex. And the rap group was 2 Live Crew. But Jim Morrison was arrested for the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/12 "2000-08-12T17:21:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Wow! I would expect a much better argument from you wierddave. That is usually what people say to defend free speech. “If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Or change the channel, or whatever” And something is wrong with that because…? You don’t like NYPD Blue’s naked asses? Nobody’s forcing you or your children (who should be in bed by then anyway!) to watch. You don’t like naked boobies or simulated acts of oral sex? Don’t go to strip joints. That simple. > [@](#): > > Maybe in the meantime we should start some kiddie porn rings and even open a club where underage children strip and fuck each other on stage for money. People who do like that sort of thing should just stay home or go to church. A couple people having sex with children is not going to be the collapse of such a great nation. If that slope got any slipperier you’d be the Agony of Defeat guy. But seriously, I think you can understand something as simple as the idea of an Age of Consent. Too bad your parents didn’t. > [@](#): > > Fuck you both!! But not in public. No, that would be bad. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/13 "2000-08-12T17:25:46Z")
Thanks **Grendel**. And I am not trying to impose my morals on people or anything. I have very few anyway… But this is a licensed business making money off of people having oral sex. “They are not making money off this, Bear, you fucking idiot.” Of course they are. This helps the club gain popularity and therefore more business. Wouldn’t everyone want to go to the awesome club where everyone is naked on stage eating each other out? They are exploiting this! I never said it was _morally_ wrong. But it is ilegal! ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/14 "2000-08-12T17:34:42Z")
**But seriously, I think you can understand something as simple as the idea of an Age of Consent** Age of consent is a LAW!! A law based on morals. If we break one law, why could we not break that one? \*\*And something is wrong with that because…? \*\* I think I have made it clear what is wrong with that. This IS NOT about free speech. I suppose all those rave clubs should be legal to because the fact that all these kids are doing large quantities of drugs and overdosing does not affect me, or Western Civilization, right? Also, why are female circumcisions ilegal here? Why do we not allow these cultures to chop up their young women? It is not effecting us. This is their culture, why should we impose our morals on their culture??? If you do not know what I am talking about, look into it. **You don’t like naked boobies or simulated acts of oral sex? Don’t go to strip joints.** All the people who follow your advice would still run into this because this WAS NOT a strip club.This was a dance club! And it was licensed to be a dance club. If they want to become a strip club, let them get the place rezoned and get a different license and then they can become a strip club! They will have to give up their liquor license though, since the law does not allow full nudity at strip clubs that serve alcohol. These are laws folks… I am sorry, but they are. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/15 "2000-08-12T17:37:11Z")
\*\*. Too bad your parents didn’t. \*\* What next? Are you going to tell me I smell? Or I have coodies? How about some “Yo mamma…” jokes. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/16 "2000-08-12T17:48:20Z")
**Bear\_Nenno** Just because “its the law” hardly makes something like that wrong. The law has to serve a useful purpose, oh I dunno, like protecting people and property and when neither are at risk then what is the point ? I would like you to point out why a bunch of people harming no-one should be persecuted in the name of a religious morality set up by a misogynist with a power hungry mindset near to a couple of thousand years ago in a land where freedom was the ability to sell your daugthers has to do with anything at all. At one time the police in the UK would hide in toilet cubicles trying to catch gay men from meeting each other.Who are the perverts, the ones doing it or the ones watching, recording and itemising it ? That was “the law”. If people want to fuck each other for money that is their business, blonde dolly birds have been doing that with millionaires for years now but when “the heathen masses” sell themselves that is regarded as immoral. Don’t you just love both of those double standards. One of the reasons that the sex industry is so sordid and sleazy is that being illegal it is completely uncontrolled so how does enforcement of the law benefit society in that regard ? Why should you care whom I choose to have an orgasm in or where or when ? Just so long as I do that in a place that does not interfere with your rights. Sexual control of populations has been the enduring theme of all the worlds great religions wether it is the romance of the chuch wedding ceremony or the stoning to death of an adulterer. As for anyone on this board saying anything that might advocate sex with children (now defined in the UK as rape) I do think you ought to apologise for such an intemperate remark. So tell me, if there is no victim what crime is committed ? I have left you with plenty of stuff you can come back at me with, I have not used up my arguments by any degree. ---
**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/17 "2000-08-12T17:49:16Z")
Well, I don’t know where that whole apostle-Paul-promotes-hate SHIT came from, because apparently someone hasn’t read Paul’s epistles to the churches. Yes, he DOES promote morality, but he’s supposed to, considering morality IS one of God’s statutes. It’s kind of funny how everyone wants to forget God set down laws in the Bible AS WELL as told us to love everyone. And Paul writes many times about living in harmony with everyone and being kind. But I guess you must’ve skipped over that part. By the way: Oral sex is illegal in places that aren’t licensed to be strip clubs. In fact, if I remember correctly, it’s still illegal there. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/18 "2000-08-12T18:00:10Z")
Great… the only person on my side has come running, Bible open! This is not helping my position. **Nocturne** nobody is going to care about what your bible says. I dont! This has nothing to do with the OP. The people were violating REAL laws, set forth by a REAL government. What makes YOUR Bible more important that the writings of another person’s religion?? I am going to have everyone against me in no time… we have started both a Victimless Crime Debate, and a Moral Laws from the Bible Debate. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/19 "2000-08-12T18:02:35Z")
Casdave, et al, it will do no good to argue with Bear\_Nenno about the laws. He isn’t making them. You don’t have to convince him to change them. However, all you are doing is bitching about it. He is just pointing out the other side of things. Whether it should be illegal or not doesn’t matter, because it IS illegal. RIght now, today, this minute, it’s ILLEGAL. Saying “Well, who does it harm?” is a very bad arguement. In a couple years, maybe everything will be different and prostitution will be legalized, great. And having oral sex in a dance club will be legal too. But right now it’s not. It is against the law. People who break laws (hopefully) get arrested. If the cops are out of line by arresting people who are breaking the law, what should the cops be doing? It’s not the policemen’s fault that there are laws, why are you bitching about them? They just enforce the rules, they don’t make them. It’s like getting mad at Alphagene for closing a thread due to forum rules that were broken in that thread. He didn’t make up the rules. But he is charged with enforcing them, and it doesn’t matter how much we all bitch and moan about it. ---
**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096/20 "2000-08-12T18:13:37Z")
Am I missing something here? It appears that people were simulating or actually having oral sex in a regular, non-strip, dance club. Somehow the police found out and made some arrests. How is this unreasonable? Saying it wasn’t bothering anyone or that everyone involved was of legal age and consenting doesn’t mean jack. The club was allowing and encouraging a form of entertainment not allowed under its license. What if someone decided to park themselves by the customer service desk in Wal-Mart and do the same thing? Should they just be ignored because they aren’t hurting anyone, or because anyone who doesn’t approve can just look away? Or because anyone offended can just go to some other Wal-Mart in the future? I have no problem with people screwing each other silly at a private party or at a designated strip club that might allow such activities. If this club wants to get rezoned and relicensed, go ahead. Or do some people here think the police should have been out catching murderers instead? By that logic, you could say that thank god they were arresting people for simulating sex acts in a public place rather than arresting some poor schmuck for watering his lawn at high noon. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-god-for-our-police-force-saving-us-from-the-evil-that-is-strawberries/29096.md?page=2)