# Thank you, Christian anti-gay lawyer, for keeping the world safe from perverts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506 "2012-11-19T14:20:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/1 "2012-11-19T14:20:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Biron is associated with the Alliance Defending Freedom, a group of lawyers who, according to their website, are committed to keeping “the door open for the spread of the Gospel” by advocating for “religious liberty, the sanctity of life, and marriage and family.” Great job! D’ya think you might, maybe, not take a minor to Canada, talk her into performing sex acts, and photographing it? For the sake of not being such a fucking hypocrite and whatever. [http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/2790496-95/biron-charges-lawyer-manchester](http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/2790496-95/biron-charges-lawyer-manchester) ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/2 "2012-11-19T14:23:49Z")
I don’t get it. Was this escapade a purely private endeavour by the (female) lawyer, or did she do it to further her cause in some convoluted way? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/3 "2012-11-19T14:42:07Z")
I think she did it for her own pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/4 "2012-11-19T14:43:19Z")
Another one bites the dust. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/5 "2012-11-19T14:56:19Z")
Her organization is [just as nutso](http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2012/11/13/after-the-election/) as you might have guessed from that brief description. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/6 "2012-11-19T15:04:10Z")
You’d think a lawyer of all people would be legally prudent enough to not film her own crime. What is it these days with idiots filming themselves committing crimes? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/7 "2012-11-19T15:08:59Z")
Not only filming her own crime, but keeping child pornography on her work computer. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/8 "2012-11-19T15:22:45Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Another one bites the dust. That’s not dust… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/9 "2012-11-19T15:24:14Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > You’d think a lawyer of all people would be legally prudent enough to not film her own crime. What is it these days with idiots filming themselves committing crimes? As the OP puts it, she was helping to protect the world from perverts. One in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/10 "2012-11-19T15:27:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > As the OP puts it, she was helping to protect the world from perverts. One in particular. Also, she was apparently helping to get drugs off the streets, one gram at a time: > [@](#): > > Two witnesses have testified to seeing Biron in possession of ecstasy, marijuana and cocaine. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/11 "2012-11-19T15:49:26Z")
I think this is all about trying to keep up with her male colleagues. How’s a homophobic christian lawyer gal supposed to show she can be one with the big boys if she can’t get caught with her pants down too? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/12 "2012-11-19T21:03:40Z")
Slight hijack, but I found this part of the article somewhat odd; > [@](#): > > FBI agents swiftly arrested Lisa Biron yesterday morning as she awaited a hearing on child pornography charges at Manchester’s district court. About 9 a.m. FBI agents entered the courtroom, told Biron to leave her belongings and took her into an adjoining conference room where she remained for several minutes before coming out in handcuffs. Is it standard for the FBI to arrest someone inside a courthouse where a different jurisdiction is already trying them for the same crime? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/13 "2012-11-19T23:48:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Slight hijack, but I found this part of the article somewhat odd; > > > [@](#): > > > > FBI agents swiftly arrested Lisa Biron yesterday morning as she awaited a hearing on child pornography charges at Manchester’s district court. About 9 a.m. FBI agents entered the courtroom, told Biron to leave her belongings and took her into an adjoining conference room where she remained for several minutes before coming out in handcuffs. > > Is it standard for the FBI to arrest someone inside a courthouse where a different jurisdiction is already trying them for the same crime? See the next two paragraphs: > [@](#): > > Outside, Biron ducked her head below the backseat window of a white vehicle as it was driven away from the courthouse. > > A few hours later in U.S. District Court in Concord, Biron, who is associated with a national coalition of Christian lawyers, was formally told of the federal charges against her: transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, possession of child pornography and five counts of sexual exploitation of children. It looks to me like she was facing child pornography charges in the first court, and was then arrested for a new set of charges pertaining to the statutory rape with international transportation and brought before the second court. The reason for the change of venue isn’t clear; maybe it was a state court versus federal court issue. The child pornography charges may have been the same ones that were pending a hearing in the first court, integrated into the new proceedings, or maybe the Feds discovered another portion of her kiddie-porn stash. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/14 "2012-11-20T16:46:23Z")
Damn, I was _so_ hoping for a reference in the story to anal sex, which would have made the phrase “keeping the door open for the spread of the Gospel” so much more deliciously ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/15 "2012-11-20T18:13:23Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Slight hijack, but I found this part of the article somewhat odd; > > > [@](#): > > > > FBI agents swiftly arrested Lisa Biron yesterday morning as she awaited a hearing on child pornography charges at Manchester’s district court. About 9 a.m. FBI agents entered the courtroom, told Biron to leave her belongings and took her into an adjoining conference room where she remained for several minutes before coming out in handcuffs. > > Is it standard for the FBI to arrest someone inside a courthouse where a different jurisdiction is already trying them for the same crime? This is how it works–The local cops are holding the bad guy. The stiff and supercilious FBI guy comes and tries to take the bad guy away on related federal charges, but the cops resent this because they did the legwork. If the cop is a woman, the FBI guy makes a sexist comment in there somewhere. The cops finagle a way to hold on to the suspect while they figure out a way to cockblock the FBI guy. But sometimes they manage to work together and pull off some sort of fancy footwork like giving the bad guy immunity for the local charges in exchange for her confession, only to have the FBI swoop in and nab them for the federal charges. Many zingers are exchanged regardless. But sometimes, it happens more or less in reverse, except the local cops are obstructionist yokels and it’s the chief of police who makes the sexist comment to the female FBI agent. And if the male FBI agent and the female cop happen to be married to each other, things get more complicated. 😛 Okay, but really, what Steve MB said. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/16 "2012-11-21T01:48:02Z")
Jesus, I saw that show. Many, many times. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/17 "2012-11-21T03:07:15Z")
_Criminal Minds_? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/18 "2012-11-21T04:02:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Her organization is [just as nutso](http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2012/11/13/after-the-election/) as you might have guessed from that brief description. That link leaves me with one burning question: Did they really make the marine guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier stand duty in the middle of a hurricane? They must be _really_ worried about that guy getting away! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/19 "2012-11-21T04:48:53Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That link leaves me with one burning question: > > Did they really make the marine guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier stand duty in the middle of a hurricane? They must be _really_ worried about that guy getting away! This came up on the SDMB during Sandy; they do indeed stand out in the rain and wind. Apparently there is a small shelter there they can use if it gets bad enough though. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-christian-anti-gay-lawyer-for-keeping-the-world-safe-from-perverts/641506/20 "2012-11-22T13:00:18Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That link leaves me with one burning question: > > Did they really make the marine guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier stand duty in the middle of a hurricane? They must be _really_ worried about that guy getting away! /nitpick The Old Guard are Army, not Marine. And Marine should always be capitalized when referring to a member of the Corps. 🙂 /nitpick