# Thank you, Dopers and (eventually) Pitters!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 9, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500 "2007-02-09T15:18:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/301 "2007-02-17T20:42:04Z")

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Tris

However ill-advised you might think the gesture is, the only understanding I need with you is that you will return the money to me if he posts within the next two years. Beyond that, I don’t care what you do with it. As soon as you respond affirmatively to this, I will send you the check. Inform him and me that you got it. If he posts at any time after you receive it, send it back to me.

Is that acceptable?

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Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber

Remember that the offer is for your permanent disappearance, and that by paying you after two years, I am (however foolishly) allowing you to earn enough trust that you will comply with the agreement from then on.

And speaking of weasling, how’s it going with your “choice” to have faith in God?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/302 "2007-02-17T20:50:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Tris

However ill-advised you might think the gesture is, the only understanding I need with you is that you will return the money to me if he posts within the next two years. Beyond that, I don’t care what you do with it. As soon as you respond affirmatively to this, I will send you the check. Inform him and me that you got it. If he posts at any time after you receive it, send it back to me.

Is that acceptable?

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Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber

Remember that the offer is for your permanent disappearance, and that by paying you after two years, I am (however foolishly) allowing you to earn enough trust that you will comply with the agreement from then on.

And speaking of weasling, how’s it going with your “choice” to have faith in God?  
[/QUOTE]

Now we’re back to two years? Well, if **Tris** tells me he’s cashed (read that word carefully) your check, and that HE’s holding $500 that he will give to me in two years, and gives me some way to contact him off the board, I’ll agree.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/303 "2007-02-17T20:57:10Z")

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[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]  
Now we’re back to two years? Well, if **Tris** tells me he’s cashed (read that word carefully) your check, and that HE’s holding $500 that he will give to me in two years, and gives me some way to contact him off the board, I’ll agree.  
[/QUOTE]  
It _began_ with two years. Very well. Then it is all up to Tris.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/304 "2007-02-17T20:58:51Z")

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Don’t do it, prr! Its a trap!  
Just kidding.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/305 "2007-02-17T21:03:18Z")

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I have been enjoying this way more than I probably should. I actually think that both parties are men of their words (for better or worse) and will keep to their sides of the agreement. This whole thing sets an interesting precedent for sure.

In case anyone is wondering, I am easy but I ain’t cheap. I remodeling a bathroom later this year and would welcome any help. I’ll leave for eight grand.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/306 "2007-02-17T21:05:00Z")

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This is the most fucked-up pledge drive I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/307 "2007-02-17T21:11:26Z")

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[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]  
This is the most fucked-up pledge drive I’ve ever seen.  
[/QUOTE]

What about PBS’s “Send a squid to camp” campaign of '97?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/308 "2007-02-17T21:16:32Z")

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**Liberal** , **PRR** , \*\*Tris \*\* I just made one last plea to the mods to step in and end this nonsense. Hopefully someone will check in on it.

Why won’t you both just stand down?

Jim

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/309 "2007-02-17T21:26:26Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
**Liberal** , **PRR** , \*\*Tris \*\* I just made one last plea to the mods to step in and end this nonsense. Hopefully someone will check in on it.

Why won’t you both just stand down?

Jim  
[/QUOTE]

Shh, egos are crushing together like glaciers and we’re witnessing the birth of a new landscape where bribery replaces debate. How _dare_ you interfere in God’s divine plan?!

Lousy atheist…

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/310 "2007-02-17T21:30:44Z")

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Jim, you’re going to end up costing me money, and geting **Liberal** off the hook. MYOB, please.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/311 "2007-02-17T21:49:54Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
**Liberal** , **PRR** , \*\*Tris \*\* I just made one last plea to the mods to step in and end this nonsense. Hopefully someone will check in on it.

Why won’t you both just stand down?

Jim  
[/QUOTE]  
I can’t “stand down” because I made an offer which he accepted. Only Tris can stand down at this point. If he does so, then obviously there is no deal.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/312 "2007-02-17T21:53:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I can’t “stand down” because I made an offer which he accepted. Only Tris can stand down at this point. If he does so, then obviously there is no deal.  
[/QUOTE]

Shouldn’t the deal remain open for a reasonable amount of time while efforts are made to secure another go-between, should Tris decline? A week, perhaps? Given the two-year timeframe, what’s the rush?

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/313 "2007-02-17T21:56:29Z")

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Is this still a “wait 2 years before getting the $500” deal? I think that’s absurd, but hey, if PRR wants to do it, OK. I wouldn’t. Who gets a service for 2 years before paying for it?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/314 "2007-02-17T21:57:41Z")

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Stupid New Year’s resolution. That $500 coulda been coming MY way. ☹

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/315 "2007-02-17T21:58:24Z")

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Well, if Tris declines, I don’t know of anyone else actively posting whom I know in real life and trust. Poly has already declined (unless someone maintains that I misread his post).

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/316 "2007-02-17T22:02:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I can’t “stand down” because I made an offer which he accepted. Only Tris can stand down at this point. If he does so, then obviously there is no deal.  
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Well I made my last plea, it would be nice if a mod would officially step in and tell me they do not care.

[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]  
Jim, you’re going to end up costing me money, and geting **Liberal** off the hook. MYOB, please.  
[/QUOTE]

Find I am done, I will miss you. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Shh, egos are crushing together like glaciers and we’re witnessing the birth of a new landscape where bribery replaces debate. How _dare_ you interfere in God’s divine plan?!  
Lousy atheist…  
[/QUOTE]

I am not an Atheist, I am a recovering Catholic that is basically a modern agnostic. I do not know if God exists or not, but I am pretty damn sure that no Church I have seen has it right and most are not even close to their own core beliefs.

I just wanted to clear up the atheist part. Its weird I also get accused of being both a liberal and a conservative and I am neither.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/317 "2007-02-17T23:45:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Tris

However ill-advised you might think the gesture is, the only understanding I need with you is that you will return the money to me if he posts within the next two years. Beyond that, I don’t care what you do with it. As soon as you respond affirmatively to this, I will send you the check. Inform him and me that you got it. If he posts at any time after you receive it, send it back to me.

Is that acceptable?  
[/quote]

It wouldn’t be with me if I were **Tris** , seeing as how you’ve placed on **Tris** the onus of monitoring **prr** ’s posting (or lack thereof) for the next two years. He is already agreeing to hold funds for this little pissing contest only out of the goodness of his heart, with no compensation or benefit to him.

So how about you agree to monitor **prr** ’s postinng (or lack thereof) yourself? You’re not leaving the Boards, and this is your offer and your benefit, so you do the necessary babysitting. That way **Tris** is not obligated to do anything other than hold funds. If _you_ find **prr** posting and notify **Tris** , offering proof that is acceptable _in **Tris** ’s sole judgment_, then he will return the money to you.

I would also point out that the terms of your meanspirited contract do not make clear whether you are agreeing that “ **pseudotriton ruber ruber** ” not post here for two years, or that the individual currently known by that pseudonym not post here for two years under any name. It seems obvious to me that, should he choose, he could merely open a new account with a new name and post away while also taking your money. What happens then? I seriously doubt TPTB will assist.

It also is not clear at this point whether the parties are in agreement that **prr’s** proposed absence from the Board is for two years only or forever.

Not that I give a rat’s ass about this shady little bargain or either of the participants thereto, but I would genuinely hate for **Tris** to do something out of the kindness of his heart and then end up in the middle of a clusterfuck over 500 clams.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/318 "2007-02-17T23:53:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
It seems obvious to me that, should he choose, he could merely open a new account with a new name…  
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What, and give up Charter Member status?

Now that’s crazy talk.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/319 "2007-02-18T00:00:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Is this still a “wait 2 years before getting the $500” deal? I think that’s absurd, but hey, if PRR wants to do it, OK. I wouldn’t. Who gets a service for 2 years before paying for it?  
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Yeah, he’s back to that. It might be naive of me, **Rubystreak** , but **Tris** strikes me as an honest person. If he tells me that he’s cashed **Liberal** ’s check, and that he can give me the $500 in two years time (maybe at another Gettysdope-fest, which is where I met him–and you, for that matter), it should be okay.

I’m sure there’s more weaseling to be done before **Tris** tells me he’s cashed the check.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-and-eventually-pitters/391500/320 "2007-02-18T00:07:00Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Well I made my last plea, it would be nice if a mod would officially step in and tell me they do not care.

Jim  
[/QUOTE]  
What? And miss all this BatShit crazy stuff. Hey! This beats the snot out of my free mug. You couldn’t make this up.

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