# Thank you, Dopers - I just saw Battlestar Galactica

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 18, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852 "2005-06-18T23:56:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/21 "2005-06-19T04:15:12Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> What does it mean, “muffett dick”?

I’m guessing it’s what Miss Muffett’s father used to impregnate her mother so that one day she could sit on a tuffet. (WTH is a “tuffet” anyway?)

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**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/22 "2005-06-19T04:23:29Z")

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> Some years ago, Dirk Benedict (aka Starbuck) tried to revive the franchise, but was squashed.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Did Benedict having a role in the new one improve realtions with viewers of the first series?

Do you mean Richard Hatch?

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/23 "2005-06-19T04:42:36Z")

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> [@2nd Law](#):
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> Do you mean Richard Hatch?

[Apparently, I do.](http://imdb.com/title/tt0193000/) [Kirk] Must be getting senile. [/Kirk]

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/24 "2005-06-19T05:13:15Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> What does it mean, “muffett dick”?

[Muffet](http://www.podster.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bots_misc/bs_galactica.html) was the robotic daggett in the original series. Proof positive that we were in for tripe and camp. 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/25 "2005-06-19T14:07:07Z")

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> [@2nd Law](#):
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> Do you mean Richard Hatch?

Yeah. Er, can you tell I didn’t watch the first one?

Did whats-his-name’s role on the show cause any fans of the first to watch?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/26 "2005-06-19T14:10:54Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> tripe and camp.

Oh yes, and thank the Lord(s) that Boxey was very briefly some kind of Starbuck toy and then ignored.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/27 "2005-06-19T16:11:15Z")

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one of the first series guys has a recurring role as a terrorist/political presidential wannabe in the new series…his acting (or his lines) has improved 10093493483948% since the first series.  
I agree with the statments about the first series being great when you were a kid. now its like watching Speed Racer. it just makes me wanna rip out my eyes.

besides the second series has Grace Park.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/28 "2005-06-19T16:25:34Z")

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> [@Critical1](#):
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> besides the second series has Grace Park.

Who can’t have much of a future in _one_ of her roles, having shot Loren…er, Edward Olmos.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/29 "2005-06-19T17:34:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It may be good, or it may be bad. But what it isn’t is _Battlestar Galactica_, name or no name.

Fine. Whatever. The original series was AWEFUL. It’s one of those things that, if you like it, it’s probably becasuse it’s “so bad that it’s good”. It was an obvioius attempt to cash in on the Star Wars phenomenon, but with cheezy writing and crappy special effects. Bleh!!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/30 "2005-06-19T18:11:38Z")

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Well, as \*\*Critical1 \*\*and other said- when I was young, and watched the 1st series, it had a certain magic, and I had some fond memories. But yes, the show didn’t age well at all, now I cringe when I watch it. However, the SF channel shouldn’t have named this series “Battlestart Galactica”. I might have enjoyed it if it was a 100% new show, instead of being 95% new. That 5% grates and annoys me, like a raspberry seed in my wisdom tooth. ☹

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/31 "2005-06-19T18:23:39Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> [Muffet](http://www.podster.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bots_misc/bs_galactica.html) was the robotic daggett in the original series. Proof positive that we were in for tripe and camp. 😃

Then “daggett dick” might be the preferred term.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/32 "2005-06-19T19:42:03Z")

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Yes…I sit corrected. 😃

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/33 "2005-06-20T06:30:00Z")

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I still find these discussions/arguments amusing. As someone who watched and loved every single second of the original series I can state plainly:

**The original 70s series was nothing more than a campy, cheesey, cornball, Star Wars-rip off, brainless kid’s show. Period.**

The only reason it was on in primetime instead of Saturday mornings is because it was so expensive (this is also why it was cancelled, not because of network politics). Sure I watched & loved it, _because I was freakin’ 12 years old!_ It was practically a live action cartoon. A couple years earlier I had watched & loved Lost In Space reruns in syndication. As I got older it became obvious how embarrassingly bad both shows were.

The original Battlestar was created/produced by Glen Larson and it fit the mold of all his other hack-kneed, over-the-top, childish, silly, schlock series: Knight Rider, BJ & the Bear, Sheriff Lobo, the early 80s Buck Rogers, Automan, Manimal, The Highwayman. Need I go on…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/34 "2005-06-20T12:04:48Z")

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Don’t mince words, Ants.  
What do you _really_ think?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/35 "2005-06-20T15:01:08Z")

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Grace Park!

\<drooo-ooool\>

Gotta have me my weekly double-shot-o-Boomer!!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/36 "2005-06-20T15:05:23Z")

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> [@GrizzRich](#):
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> Gotta have me my weekly double-shot-o-Boomer!!

You realize her career just took a nose dive, right? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/37 "2005-06-20T16:39:34Z")

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I think Grace’s character will do just fine in the new BG, her earth clone is pregnant and her clone on the Gallactica has been in turmoil since the show started, shes a flawed (from the veiwpoint of the cylons) model…just the thing the humans need on their side. I have a feeling that Boomer is the humans counter to Baltar. a nice touch if it plays out right.  
oh yeah new episodes july 10th SCHWING!!!

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/38 "2005-06-20T16:42:09Z")

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oh yeah and the most obvious reason Grace Park wont be leaving the show…Asain Hotness.

the girl is one of the shows hotties and she can act, I dont see them giving up those assests in the script writting department, she may want to leave on her own but it would be hard to write her out of the show.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/39 "2005-06-20T16:43:21Z")

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Okay, **Hail Ants** , I was a 10-year-old superfan of the Original, and I pretty much agree with your evaluation, _but_, I just _have_ to nitpick this:

> [@Hail Ants](#):
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> hack-kneed

😃

I think you mean _hackneyed_, meaning “trite” or “commonplace” after the town of Hackney, England.

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-dopers-i-just-saw-battlestar-galactica/308852/40 "2005-06-20T17:08:52Z")

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I want to take this opportunity to praise this fantastic show once again. I’ve never had emotional responses to TV shows quite like this.

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