# Thank You, Glenn Beck; Buh Bye, ACORN!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754 "2009-09-11T23:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/181 "2009-09-14T18:43:48Z")

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**Shoddy** and **Starkers** do a victory dance, and all the rest of us register Republican, sweeping them to electoral triumph. Try to keep up.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/182 "2009-09-14T18:44:38Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> OK, I concede, ACORN sucks. Now what?

Well, clearly the Conservative movement is the only blameless political party, and the Left is entirely at fault for all the evil in the world. As a result, Obama is to be stripped of his Presidency, and we’ll all need to go out and get guns and stop getting abortions.

Apparently, ACORN was the lynchpin which was holding the entire Left together. There’s nothing left now but to hand the White House over to Sarah Palin.  
\*I fully expect **Starving Artist** to quote some part of this and say that I’m absolutely right.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/183 "2009-09-14T18:51:42Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> BRAVO! BRAVO!
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> A thing of brilliance was that post!

It’s like a chick thinking a rooster is the biggest thing in the world. Cute. 😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/184 "2009-09-14T18:51:44Z")

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Sarah Palin can’t be President. She was born in Alaska. Doesn’t that make her Russian?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/185 "2009-09-14T18:54:33Z")

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They belong to a mutual admiration society. Not exclusive, but membership is, well, small.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/186 "2009-09-14T19:02:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They belong to a mutual admiration society. Not exclusive, but membership is, well, small.

Hrm. Small members would explain the way they act.

I keeed, I keeeed! 😃

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/187 "2009-09-14T19:02:16Z")

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I’m with \*\*elucidator \*\*on this one. I do not begrudge the right their crowing on this one. In fact, I think Fox ‘News’ should host a Lets All Suck Off Glen Beck For Overthrowing ACORN Night.

So ACORN has some legitimacy and corruption troubles amongst their employees. And Glen and the right went after them like hungry dogs and, as a pack, they took down this Left-Wing Organization like a crippled gazelle and they are now feasting on its entrails.

Congratulations.

I say all this because before last years Presidential campaign, if you had said to me, “I predict that within a year and a half, the right wing will destroy ACORN,” my response would have been: “What the fuck is ACORN?”

Democrats get the White House; Republicans get to dance on ACORN’s grave. Fair enough, I say.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/188 "2009-09-14T19:06:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Can we get a mod to disable bullet point functionality for **Shodan**? Please?

Respectfully disagree. If anyone deserves a few bullets…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/189 "2009-09-14T19:12:14Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Respectfully disagree. If anyone deserves a few bullets…

Something about watering the tree of liberty, right?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/190 "2009-09-14T19:13:48Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Hrm. Small members would explain the way they act…

\*Mebst! Mebst! \* Unacceptable!

Our penilely disadvantaged Americans should not be subjected for ridicule for their misfortune! I will not use such pejorative and hateful terms as “needle-dick” and “bug-fucker”, nor will I stand idly by while such discrimination is practiced! “Wee Willy” is right out as well, of course!

Don’t worry, guys, I’ve got your back!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/191 "2009-09-14T19:17:27Z")

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Kudos on your willingness to reach around the aisle.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/192 "2009-09-14T19:38:46Z")

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Just the kinda guy I am! Hand me the tweezers, would you?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/193 "2009-09-14T19:39:16Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So ACORN has some legitimacy and corruption troubles amongst their employees. And Glen and the right went after them like hungry dogs and, as a pack, they took down this Left-Wing Organization like a crippled gazelle and they are now feasting on its entrails.

Considering that all Glenn Beck & Co. succeeded in doing was to pressure the Census Bureau into dropping ACORN from its list of nearly 80,000 ‘partners’ involved in publicizing the next Census, that’s defining down ‘taking down a Left-Wing Organization like a crippled gazelle and feasting on its entrails’ to a considerable degree.

That reinforces your larger point, of course, but I wanted to point that out. If that’s the sort of victory the wingnuts (and other random fasteners) want to jump up and down about, then it just accentuates their impotence.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/194 "2009-09-14T19:40:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just the kinda guy I am! Hand me the tweezers, would you?

Don’t crush that dwarf!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/195 "2009-09-14T19:40:19Z")

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You’re hip to my jive.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/196 "2009-09-14T19:57:25Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Don’t crush that dwarf!

Hand me the needle-nose pliers!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/197 "2009-09-14T20:04:55Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> …That reinforces your larger point, of course, but I wanted to point that out. If that’s the sort of victory the wingnuts (and other random fasteners) want to jump up and down about, then it just accentuates their impotence.

Its a little more than that, maybe. Recall that a lot of the US Attorney scandal was about being pressured to pursue bogus “voter fraud” cases to embarass Dem candidates, that’s how ACORN got roped into this in the first place, IIRC.

The cases were dead bogus, of course, but it got the rightards a swollen hard-on for ACORN, in an effort to bolster some legitimacy for those “cases”.

What it breaks down to is the more people vote, the worse it is for the right. Pretty much all they’re gonna get, registration wise, they’ve already got, and the process leans towards the settled property owner, who leans Pubbie. The right has nothing to gain from voter registration drives, and everything to lose. The point is not lost on them.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/198 "2009-09-14T20:09:28Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> All you need is to understand [ul][li]Nothing happened, and [_]It was perfectly justifiable, and [_]It never happened in the first place.[_]There is no video of ACORN workers assisting people in committing prostitution. [_]Certainly not in multiple offices in several states. [_]The video that doesn’t exist shows them performing in perfectly honest and above board ways. [_] None of the ACORN workers have anything to do with the organization that employs them. [_]No ACORN workers have ever been convicted of anything.[_]The ones who were convicted weren’t convicted. [_]The fact that ACORN fired them for doing what they didn’t get videotaped doing means that what they were doing is perfectly fine.[_]They also never did it in the first place. [_]The Census Bureau did not find that ACORN ever engaged in anything questionable. They simply ended their relationship with ACORN for no particular reason. [_]The Census Bureau did not end their relationship with ACORN. They simply didn’t continue it.[_]Not because ACORN did anything questionable, mind you. [_]Everything they did was perfectly fine.[\*]Besides, they didn’t do anything[/ul][/li]  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Characteristically disingenuous. Your point seems to be that the people who don’t agree that witches have been found and should be burned along with everyone they’ve ever met can only provide an argument that is entirely contradictory.

This is one of the favorite tropes around here, and one that Shodan has perfected to a particular degree: pretending that a bunch of individuals on a message board are somehow designated representatives of a monolithic party voice. This is dishonest, Shodan, and you know it.

The various “contradictions” you quote are a collection of theories randomly thrown out in a rambling discussion attempting to understand–rather than simply accept without understanding, which seems to be the strategy you support–what actually happened in a story that’s missing a lot of details. To collect all of those “what if” fragments of an ongoing discussion as if they proved that the official position of the “left” is intrinsically self-contradictory only serves to prove, along with this OP, how little substance your own position actually has, if this is truly all you’ve got.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/199 "2009-09-14T20:31:26Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Kudos on your willingness to reach around the aisle.

Please do not ever associate Shodan, small members, and reach-arounds again. I feel kinda like I did the first time I saw goatse now.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/200 "2009-09-14T20:33:25Z")

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Never heard of it until now. Gee, thanks, **Drain**. I owe you one.

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