# Thank You, Glenn Beck; Buh Bye, ACORN!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754 "2009-09-11T23:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/201 "2009-09-14T20:37:36Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m a bit puzzled. I’ve searched some major newspapers on the web and can’t find any references to this ACORN story.

There was an article in the _Post-Dispatch_ a few days ago. It mostly was about the Census, but at the end it did reference the sting, albeit there was no mention of the child-prostitution angle. Seems to me I saw it on [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) for a day or so. I would suspect their own reporters - once on the story - couldn’t find anything to make it worth continued reporting.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/202 "2009-09-14T22:18:56Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Characteristically disingenuous.

No, it’s not. I didn’t post anything, and what I posted is quite true. Although I didn’t post it.

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> Your point seems to be that the people who don’t agree that witches have been found and should be burned along with everyone they’ve ever met can only provide an argument that is entirely contradictory.

Nope. Never said anything of the sort, and what I posted is quite true. Although I didn’t post it.

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> This is one of the favorite tropes around here, and one that Shodan has perfected to a particular degree: pretending that a bunch of individuals on a message board are somehow designated representatives of a monolithic party voice.

None of my posts show this. I never said this. Even if I did, it’s still true, and I never said this.

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> This is dishonest, Shodan, and you know it.

No, it’s not.

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> The various “contradictions” you quote are a collection of theories randomly thrown out in a rambling discussion attempting to understand–rather than simply accept without understanding, which seems to be the strategy you support–what actually happened in a story that’s missing a lot of details.

There are no contradictions. Everyone knows that. There are no details missing. We know with absolute clarity that ACORN did nothing wrong.

There is absolutely no evidence of this, and the evidence that is there, isn’t there.

ACORN has never done anything wrong. It never has, and it never will. Obama has blessed it. Ergo, it is automatically and forever above reproach.

All of Obama’s whores say so, so it must be true.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/203 "2009-09-14T22:23:07Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> All of Obama’s whores say so, so it must be true.

He’s got whores? He really is the next JFK.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/204 "2009-09-14T22:26:45Z")

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No, JFK had bimbos. There’s a difference.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/205 "2009-09-14T22:39:53Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Please do not ever associate Shodan, small members, and reach-arounds again. I feel kinda like I did the first time I saw goatse now.

“Está Og was I, 'ere I saw goatse.”

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**Author:** ![hopesperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@hopesperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hopesperson)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/206 "2009-09-14T22:58:59Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “Está Og was I, 'ere I saw goatse.”

[delurking] Now _that’s_ funny. [/delurking]

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/207 "2009-09-14T23:28:25Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> That reinforces your larger point, of course, but I wanted to point that out. If that’s the sort of victory the wingnuts (and other random fasteners) want to jump up and down about, then it just accentuates their impotence.

Devil’s advocate: many conservatives (like **Shodan** above and the OP) believe that ACORN is intimately linked to the President; some further believe that they played a major and fraudulent role in getting elected. This could be the first step in another avenue of attack on him.

Devil’s devil’s advocate: They already have so many, legitimate and otherwise, that one more won’t make a difference.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/208 "2009-09-15T01:32:43Z")

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**Stephe** , you are an idiot. You cheer and congratulate a man who makes a living of tearing your country appart; he gleefully lies and ofuscates against your own people for money, pitting one againt the other for profit and attention.  
He’s is the kind of venomous rethoric that can lead to blood on the streets, and you cheer and encourage him for more.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/209 "2009-09-15T01:50:43Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> **Stephe** , you are an idiot. You cheer and congratulate a man who makes a living of tearing your country appart; he gleefully lies and ofuscates against your own people for money, pitting one againt the other for profit and attention.  
> He’s is the kind of venomous rethoric that can lead to blood on the streets, and you cheer and encourage him for more.

Yeah, well, let’s all give Glenn Beck a tip of the hat tonight. Late reports are that the Senate has voted to cut off ACORN funding.

> **[Breitbart News Network](https://www.breitbart.com/)**
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> Syndicated news and opinion website providing continuously updated headlines to top news and analysis sources.

\*The Senate voted Monday to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN, a community organization under fire in several voter-registration fraud cases. \*

The vote was 87-to-3.

Looks like the vast majority of senators don’t believe ACORN’s laughable defense that the videotapes were “doctored.” Again, thank you, Glenn Beck.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/210 "2009-09-15T02:19:46Z")

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Excellent! This may be just the groundswell we need to once and for all defeat the Salvation Army.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/211 "2009-09-15T02:56:43Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Looks like the vast majority of senators don’t believe ACORN’s laughable defense that the videotapes were “doctored.” Again, thank you, Glenn Beck.

I must have missed something- why does ACORN need a defense? What, _exactly_, did they do which was illegal?

So far, the only illegal thing we’ve seen was the taping itself. You seem to be very proud of hysteria.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/212 "2009-09-15T03:26:10Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I must have missed something- why does ACORN need a defense? What, _exactly_, did they do which was illegal?
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> So far, the only illegal thing we’ve seen was the taping itself. You seem to be very proud of hysteria.

I guess you missed this story from the AP:  
\*The Senate voted Monday to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN, a community organization \*\*under fire in several voter-registration fraud cases.

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\*Just last week, prosecutors in Miami-Dade County, Fla., arrested 11 people for falsifying hundreds of voter applications during a registration drive last year. . \*

[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8CPN8LdLntDEDtE5NrEBQ2IgD9ANF3F01](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8CPN8LdLntDEDtE5NrEBQ2IgD9ANF3F01)

But you probably don’t think voter fraud is illegal, right?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/213 "2009-09-15T03:32:44Z")

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It’s pretty clear that ACORN is totally, 100% in the wrong.

There are no contradictions. Everyone knows that. There are no details missing. We know with absolute clarity that ACORN is evil incarnate.

There is indisputable evidence of this, and the evidence that is isn’t there, is most obviously there.

ACORN is responsible 100% for every single thing that every single one of its employees do. It is evil. Glen Beck has told us it is evil. Ergo, it is automatically and forever guilty.

All of Beck’s whores say so, so it must be true.

Regards,  
Troll

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/214 "2009-09-15T03:38:25Z")

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Word tonight is that an absolutely devastating tape on ACORN will be released on Tuesday.

Nobody will think less of you for abandoning the SS ACORN as it’s going down. But if you insist on going down with the ship, would you mind playing “Autumn” on the violin?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/215 "2009-09-15T03:52:16Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Word tonight is that an absolutely devastating tape on ACORN will be released on Tuesday.
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> Nobody will think less of you for abandoning the SS ACORN as it’s going down. But if you insist on going down with the ship, would you mind playing “Autumn” on the violin?

Word on the street is, you’re a fucking moron. We’ll learn more about this Tuesday. 😃

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/216 "2009-09-15T03:58:18Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Word tonight is that an absolutely devastating tape on ACORN will be released on Tuesday.
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> Nobody will think less of you for abandoning the SS ACORN as it’s going down. But if you insist on going down with the ship, would you mind playing “Autumn” on the violin?

Oh man, my friend’s cousin’s mom has seen this totally devastating tape of Michelle hating white people but the MSM won’t release it because of their liberal evilness.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/217 "2009-09-15T04:12:14Z")

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> [@hopesperson](#):
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> [delurking] Now _that’s_ funny. [/delurking]

At first I thought I missed a literary reference. It took me 15 minutes of skimming over Danté, Jean-Paul Sartre and Shakespeare to realize it is a palindrome. :smack:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/218 "2009-09-15T05:01:35Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I guess you missed this story from the AP:  
> \*The Senate voted Monday to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN, a community organization \*\*under fire in several voter-registration fraud cases.
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> \*Just last week, prosecutors in Miami-Dade County, Fla., arrested 11 people for falsifying hundreds of voter applications during a registration drive last year. . \*
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> [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8CPN8LdLntDEDtE5NrEBQ2IgD9ANF3F01](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8CPN8LdLntDEDtE5NrEBQ2IgD9ANF3F01)
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> But you probably don’t think voter fraud is illegal, right?

That is not voter fraud. They do not get to vote. Mickey Mouse gets registered every year. He never shows up. Voter fraud actually requires someone to vote illegally.  
There are millions of people who got registered last year. Why would you expect 100 percent of the apps to be perfect. Registration fraud is harmless and annoying. Voter fraud is not.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/219 "2009-09-15T05:52:19Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> \*Just last week, prosecutors in Miami-Dade County, Fla., arrested 11 people for falsifying hundreds of voter applications during a registration drive last year. . \*

_Sigh_

Again, what did ACORN, as an organization, do which is illegal? I’m not talking about a handful of their employees- what did the organization do illegally?

ACORN. NOT 11 employees. **ACORN**.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/220 "2009-09-15T05:53:53Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Word tonight is that an absolutely devastating tape on ACORN will be released on Tuesday.

Would you do us a favor and hold your breath 'til it’s released?

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