# Thank You, Glenn Beck; Buh Bye, ACORN! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754 "2009-09-11T23:10:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/341 "2009-09-19T03:19:44Z")
Well, maybe, but the law of _prima internexus_ says whoever speaks as an expert first, then he wins, and the other guy is full of it. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/342 "2009-09-19T03:26:12Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > ACORN was not important to the Dems. ACORN has no affiliation with the Democratic party at all. One of these things is not like the other. Whether or not ACORN is affiliated with the Democratic party, ACORN was damn sure important to the Dems during the campaign. Do you really think ACORN was out there soliciting votes for McCain and Caribou Barbie? Be serious Dio, must I provide cites showing the “ACORN is getting out the vote for Obama thing”? Since this is the Pit, screw you I won’t. Get real dude I am in no way a tighty-righty teabagger, but come on man, you are sounding like a fucking robot. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/343 "2009-09-19T03:33:19Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Umm-hmm. > > I was amused by your assertion earlier in the thread that the tapes had somehow been “edited” and dubbed". I never said they’d been “dubbed.” It is undisputed that they are not the full tapes. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/344 "2009-09-19T03:36:15Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > One of these things is not like the other. Whether or not ACORN is affiliated with the Democratic party, ACORN was damn sure important to the Dems during the campaign. > > Do you really think ACORN was out there soliciting votes for McCain and Caribou Barbie? Theyweren’t soliciting votes for anybody. They were just registering anyone who wanted to register. ACORN is a non-partisan and apolitical organization. If most new voters went for Obama, that’s not ACORN’s doing. Why don’t you tell me how they could register voters in a \*more[/i non-partisan fashion? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/345 "2009-09-19T03:37:38Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Oh, that will happen post-haste. Whether they know what they’re talking about or not. You say this as someone who falsely accused me of saying the tapes were “dubbed.” Who doesn’t know what they’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/346 "2009-09-19T03:46:03Z")
Now who’s being silly. Look, ACORN already did its thing, does it all along, election or no. Their campaigning would be somehow more effective than his, or the unions, or just popular opinion? The people they know, the people they would affect, already on board. ACORN ain’t gonna make the ocean wetter by peeing in it. Truth be known, if ACORN sent a secret message to the Central Committee, saying “What can we do to help the One?” the answer would most likely have been “Sit down, shut up, and don’t call any attention to yourselves!” The lefty iron chain of command being what it isn’t, some might very well have done so. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/347 "2009-09-19T05:14:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I never said they’d been “dubbed.” It is undisputed that they are not the full tapes. Are the full tapes available on [biggovernment.com](http://biggovernment.com)? Or youtube? I haven’t bothered to look. You won’t see the full tapes on broadcast television. They’re simply too long. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/348 "2009-09-19T05:16:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > You say this as someone who falsely accused me of saying the tapes were “dubbed.” Who doesn’t know what they’re talking about? I wasn’t taking a swipe at you, Dio. I was just saying that I thought someone would be along shortly to tell me I was wrong that had never set foot in an edit bay. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/349 "2009-09-19T05:17:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Truth be known, if ACORN sent a secret message to the Central Committee, saying “What can we do to help the One?” the answer would most likely have been “Sit down, shut up, and don’t call any attention to yourselves!” Maybe Jimmy Carter needs to get that memo. But then again…nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/350 "2009-09-19T05:18:14Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Are the full tapes available on [biggovernment.com](http://biggovernment.com)? Or youtube? I haven’t bothered to look. > > You won’t see the full tapes on broadcast television. They’re simply too long. They’re not availaible anywhere. O’Keefe has refused all requests to provide them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/351 "2009-09-19T05:31:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > They’re not availaible anywhere. O’Keefe has refused all requests to provide them. But you have to admit, it was very nice of **Evil One** to provide his expert testimony, despite not having seen the full tapes, nor having even bothered to look for them. The snippets were not dubbed, no. But they are snippets for a reason. If you’ve done video editing, I’m sure you can understand. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754.md?page=17)