# Thank You, Glenn Beck; Buh Bye, ACORN!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754 "2009-09-11T23:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/81 "2009-09-12T16:39:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> There is no evidence that it has “been overrun by sleazebags.”

“Overrun” meaning that enough bad shit has gone down with them that they need to do some serious internal cleansing, not that 51% are sleazebags.

Mind you, I think Obama has fuckall to do with what would otherwise be a non-story, I just think that there is sufficient evidence that there is a sleaze factor with this group.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/82 "2009-09-12T16:44:17Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> You’re really hung up on that “promote” word, huh?

It’s the word as much as it is how it relates to the organization. Would you please mind answering **Damuri’s** question?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/83 "2009-09-12T17:42:03Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I hope the ACORN/Underage Prostitution Ring/Obama trial goes on for months!

Wait, you want OBAMA to be put on trial for this? What on Earth does he have to do with any of this?

On an unrelated note, I think I’m going to avoid partisan blogs for a while. I think the inevitable circular arguing on this whole issue will get under my skin if I don’t.

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> As Acorn is just one of 80,000 organizations helping in the census, I do think that at least the Right crowing for such a small pray is silly.

But conservative commentators seem to have demonstrated a consistent belief that ACORN:

a) got the President elected;  
b) was and is intimately tied with the President; and  
c) is receiving lots and lots of public money.

Given those beliefs, their reaction is completely understandable.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/84 "2009-09-12T17:47:52Z")

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Bah. Too late. Add in (a.5) Engaged in/attempted widespread voter fraud in the above goal.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/85 "2009-09-12T18:04:53Z")

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Reading a small fraction of this thread hurt my brain enough, so I don’t want to read the whole thing to see if anybody’s mentioned it already, but it’s worth noting that the guy who filmed this tried it at least 4 separate times. This was just the only time he got the reaction he was looking for.

SAT prep time!!

1. If I went to a bunch of McDonalds restaurants with a hidden camera on me and offered the cashier at each location $15 to suck my dick, and then only one of them agreed, could I then take/sell the video of _only_ that event (without mentioning how many times I tried without entertaining results) to the news stations as proof that:

a) McDonalds cashiers are whores

b) The person working as a cashier at that specific McDonalds location is a whore

c) I am a whore and probably work for Burger King  
?

ETA: [This](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/123031/george_bushs_new_iraq_plan_includes.html) would then be proof that GWB is a pimp, right?

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/86 "2009-09-12T18:30:46Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Reading a small fraction of this thread hurt my brain enough, so I don’t want to read the whole thing to see if anybody’s mentioned it already, but it’s worth noting that the guy who filmed this tried it at least 4 separate times. This was just the only time he got the reaction he was looking for.
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> SAT prep time!!
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> 1. If I went to a bunch of McDonalds restaurants with a hidden camera on me and offered the cashier at each location $15 to suck my dick, and then only one of them agreed, could I then take/sell the video of _only_ that event (without mentioning how many times I tried without entertaining results) to the news stations as proof that:
> 
> a) McDonalds cashiers are whores
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> b) The person working as a cashier at that specific McDonalds location is a whore
> 
> c) I am a whore and probably work for Burger King  
> ?
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> ETA: [This](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/123031/george_bushs_new_iraq_plan_includes.html) would then be proof that GWB is a pimp, right?

I’ve seen those cashiers at McDonalds with those tight visors asking, “Can I help you?” Tell me with a straight face that you don’t feel like a John when you go to order your Big Mac!

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/87 "2009-09-12T19:00:02Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> a) McDonalds cashiers are whores
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> b) The person working as a cashier at that specific McDonalds location is a whore
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> c) I am a whore and probably work for Burger King

Don’t forget that McDonalds promotes whoring.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/88 "2009-09-12T19:02:58Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Yeah, I’m not sure why Glenn Beck would care about child prostitution, seeing as how he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.

What’s your [Fark.com](http://Fark.com) name?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/89 "2009-09-12T19:19:31Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You make some very good points. Seriously. And I’m not going to be surprised if this particular story has either more or less to it. But I remember being surprised when I had learned ACORN had received the millions it had, in light of the many allegations against them. I’m sure they do some good work, but they are a very partisan group, and I am thrilled to see that—finally—some people are viewing that as a problem for an organization that gets millions from the government and plays the role they do in our elections.

They are mostly involved in voter registration. It is illegal to ask people who they are voting for, when you register them. That would not be partisan.  
However most of the workers are paid very little and would not likely be republicans . Most of the big time bankers are repubs, would that make banks partisan?

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/90 "2009-09-12T19:39:36Z")

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Wow, so many ACORN apologists in this thread.

And some people claim with a straight face that the SDMB is not a left-leaning board. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/91 "2009-09-12T19:44:17Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> a) McDonalds cashiers are whores

No. If you think like **Stephe96** (and I advise against this), the McDonalds cashiers are McDonalds OFFICIALS, and it’s the official policy of the entire corporation to sell blowjobs.

> [@Stephe96](#):
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> You’re really hung up on that “promote” word, huh? Well, the fired ACORN workers sure as hell don’t seem to have anything against underage child prostitution.
> 
> Here’s my original cite:
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> \*[http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5830](http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5830)
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> “In Baltimore, two ACORN officials were fired after they were seen on tape **offering to help** a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute **to engage in child prostitution**.”
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> “In Washington, another set of ACORN officials **gives the same advice** , again caught on camera.” \*
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> I will happily substitute a word you feel better with. Condone, perhaps? Enable? Assist with?

That being said, McBlowjobs would be a hot seller. Hell, they could sell them by the twelve pack.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/92 "2009-09-12T20:01:34Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Wow, so many ACORN apologists in this thread.
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> And some people claim with a straight face that the SDMB is not a left-leaning board. :rolleyes:

Right. What we need is more irrational ACORN haters to even things out.

What you types don’t understand is that Acorn doesn’t have anything to do with us. It’s not a democrat outfit. We don’t need to defend it. It’s only the conservatives who try to lump it together with the entire democratic caucus like they’re some kind of storm trooper branch to do our bidding.

Acorn is as affiliated with us as the NRA is with you. No, wait, that doesn’t work.

Acorn is as affiliated with us as Focus on the Family is with you.

I think that one works.

Anyway. Yeah. The way GOP types try to make a mundane community organizing organization into a bogeyman is quite hilarious to those of us who know anything about anything.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/93 "2009-09-12T20:08:39Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> They are mostly involved in voter registration. It is illegal to ask people who they are voting for, when you register them. That would not be partisan.  
> However most of the workers are paid very little and would not likely be republicans . Most of the big time bankers are repubs, would that make banks partisan?

Maybe. Maybe not. The thing is it matters not a wit if a particular group is partisan, but if a particular group _who is working on voter registration_ is partisan. THAT is a problem.

And just because they may not be asking a party affiliation, do you really think that the efforts as a whole could not still be _highly_ partisan?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/94 "2009-09-12T20:42:32Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Wow, so many ACORN apologists in this thread.
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> And some people claim with a straight face that the SDMB is not a left-leaning board. :rolleyes:

Quite few ACORN haters, too, wouldn’t you say?

And some people claim with a straight face that the SDMB is a left-leaning board.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/95 "2009-09-12T20:51:43Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Maybe. Maybe not. The thing is it matters not a wit if a particular group is partisan, but if a particular group _who is working on voter registration_ is partisan. THAT is a problem.
> 
> And just because they may not be asking a party affiliation, do you really think that the efforts as a whole could not still be _highly_ partisan?

It does not matter is a voter registration group is partisan. You do not know who a person will vote for. You just register them.  
I did voter registration. You set up a table ,put up a sign and stack forms. At that point, you are no longer in control. Whoever walks up and chooses to fill out an app, may do so. You can not say you look republican, go away. you can refuse nobody. It is totally, 100 % non partisan. I signed up many repubs i am sure. I took solace in feeling that the more people who vote, the closer to a real peoples choice we get.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/96 "2009-09-12T21:48:09Z")

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ACORN is non-partisan and apolitical. The righ wing media myth to the contrary stems from nothing more than the fact that they register low income people to vote. Because of changing demographics, the GOP is trying to suppress the registration of minority voters by villifying anyone who helps them as “partsian,” and insinuating that they are criminals. The anti-ACORN hysteria is just as stupid, just as irrational, just as asinine as the deather/birther bullshit, and its rooted in the same core fears.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/97 "2009-09-12T22:36:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> ACORN is non-partisan and apolitical. The righ wing media myth…

Haha, that’s funny. I suppose you also believe Fox News is not right-wing, and CNN is not left-wing.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/98 "2009-09-12T22:47:23Z")

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I donate money to social programs that benefit the poorest people. A disproportionately high number of those people are probably democrats. Does that make me partisan?

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/99 "2009-09-12T22:58:20Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Maybe. Maybe not. The thing is it matters not a wit if a particular group is partisan, but if a particular group _who is working on voter registration_ is partisan. THAT is a problem.

It is? Why?

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/100 "2009-09-12T23:03:04Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Haha, that’s funny. I suppose you also believe Fox News is not right-wing, and CNN is not left-wing.

Not everything is about left-vs-right in the real world.

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