# Thank You, Glenn Beck; Buh Bye, ACORN!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754 "2009-09-11T23:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/161 "2009-09-14T16:49:41Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> At a Young Republicans meeting. Duh.

The question specified “unregistered”. I don’t think that would do it.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/162 "2009-09-14T16:52:19Z")

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_googles_

Oh, Young Republicans is for 18-40 year olds. Pretend I said National Teen Age Republicans.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/163 "2009-09-14T16:56:32Z")

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For Republicans, 40 is young. Got it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/164 "2009-09-14T16:59:32Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> If you need to believe that, by all means, add it to your delusions.

I’ll stoop to your level, if you insist.

10: “I know you are, but what am I?”  
20: goto 10

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/165 "2009-09-14T17:02:28Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> For Republicans, 40 is young. Got it. 😃

Just what the hell are you trying to say?  
Signed,  
Jack aged 44.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/166 "2009-09-14T17:02:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> For Republicans, 40 is young. Got it. 😃

Well, yeah. 40-60 year olds attend Middle-Aged Republicans meetings, 60-100 year olds attend Old Republicans meetings, and Satan, Dick Cheney and Duncan McLeod attend Immortal Republicans meetings\*.

\*not sure how they got around the “there can be only one” stuff, though I suppose it helped when the Kurrgan got knocked off.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/167 "2009-09-14T17:08:18Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Tell us the truth: is Trig Palin the leader of the resistance?

Nope, Trig was “disappeared” two years ago from my future for blogging about opposing a US National Holiday to celebrate Kenya’s Independence.

The leader of the resistance is a shadowy person known to most only as The Patriot

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/168 "2009-09-14T17:11:13Z")

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The leader of the resistance is[Steven Seagal](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120786/)?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/169 "2009-09-14T17:12:01Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> It was just an example. Let me ask you: can you think of a place where one might find people not likely to be registered which would have a larger percentage of Republicans?

Nowhere. The repubs are pretty well registered. I suppose you could go into the Villages in Florida and be in a repub stronghold. But I doubt that you would get a hell of a lot of action. Perhaps setting up a table in a Club Fed prison would give a nice repub mix.  
You actually have to accomplish something when you register. Setting up tables in wealthier places would give you low yields. If you are paid to register people ,you would not want to have to sit around a country club.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/170 "2009-09-14T17:20:43Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> _googles_
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> Oh, Young Republicans is for 18-40 year olds. Pretend I said National Teen Age Republicans.

Military History Club at any high school.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/171 "2009-09-14T17:47:53Z")

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Acorn’s response:

[http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx\_ttnews[tt\_news]=22581&tx\_ttnews[backPid]=12387&cHash=bb5331a517](http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=22581&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=12387&cHash=bb5331a517)

(Won’t code as a link, for some reason; just C&P it into the url window.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/172 "2009-09-14T17:58:46Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The leader of the resistance is[Steven Seagal](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120786/)?

No, silly, he’s a [pro wrestler](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Wilkes). Or possibly Mel Gibson.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/173 "2009-09-14T18:09:09Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> This pretty much illuminates why I don’t understand this thread. …  
> What the hell am I missing here?

All you need is to understand [ul][li]Nothing happened, and [_]It was perfectly justifiable, and [_]It never happened in the first place.[_]There is no video of ACORN workers assisting people in committing prostitution. [_]Certainly not in multiple offices in several states. [_]The video that doesn’t exist shows them performing in perfectly honest and above board ways. [_] None of the ACORN workers have anything to do with the organization that employs them. [_]No ACORN workers have ever been convicted of anything.[_]The ones who were convicted weren’t convicted. [_]The fact that ACORN fired them for doing what they didn’t get videotaped doing means that what they were doing is perfectly fine.[_]They also never did it in the first place. [_]The Census Bureau did not find that ACORN ever engaged in anything questionable. They simply ended their relationship with ACORN for no particular reason. [_]The Census Bureau did not end their relationship with ACORN. They simply didn’t continue it.[_]Not because ACORN did anything questionable, mind you. [_]Everything they did was perfectly fine.[\*]Besides, they didn’t do anything[/ul][/li]  
Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/174 "2009-09-14T18:10:29Z")

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Can we get a mod to disable bullet point functionality for **Shodan**? Please?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/175 "2009-09-14T18:11:10Z")

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I didn’t post anything in bullet point, and it was fine for me to do it.

And I didn’t do it.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/176 "2009-09-14T18:19:22Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Military History Club at any high school.

Or the loner kid wandering around with a smug look, a copy of _Atlas Shrugged_ in one hip pocket and a copy of _Starship Troopers_ in the other, for ready reference in case anybody actually tries to talk with him.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/177 "2009-09-14T18:22:59Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> All you need is to understand [ul][li]Nothing happened, and [_]It was perfectly justifiable, and [_]It never happened in the first place.[_]There is no video of ACORN workers assisting people in committing prostitution. [_]Certainly not in multiple offices in several states. [_]The video that doesn’t exist shows them performing in perfectly honest and above board ways. [_] None of the ACORN workers have anything to do with the organization that employs them. [_]No ACORN workers have ever been convicted of anything.[_]The ones who were convicted weren’t convicted. [_]The fact that ACORN fired them for doing what they didn’t get videotaped doing means that what they were doing is perfectly fine.[_]They also never did it in the first place. [_]The Census Bureau did not find that ACORN ever engaged in anything questionable. They simply ended their relationship with ACORN for no particular reason. [_]The Census Bureau did not end their relationship with ACORN. They simply didn’t continue it.[_]Not because ACORN did anything questionable, mind you. [_]Everything they did was perfectly fine.[\*]Besides, they didn’t do anything[/ul][/li]  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

BRAVO! BRAVO!

A thing of brilliance was that post!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/178 "2009-09-14T18:27:33Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Acorn’s response:
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> [http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx\_ttnews[tt\_news]=22581&tx\_ttnews[backPid]=12387&cHash=bb5331a517](http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=22581&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=12387&cHash=bb5331a517)
> 
> (Won’t code as a link, for some reason; just C&P it into the url window.

Personally, I would have preferred to see a little less polemic and a little more fact as a response. To the best of my knowledge, other than the edited videotapes themselves, O’Keefe and the web site that broke this rather specious story have issued little in the way of fact themselves.

ACORN could, and in my view, should, list the places, dates and times where O’Keefe and Giles attempted to carry out their little bit of theater. How long were they on the premises at each location? What were the responses at each location? At what point did ACORN’s senior executives know that these attempts had been made?

To be clear, I think O’Keefe’s little project was entirely reprehensible, and he apparently violated Maryland law in carrying it out. But jeez, the lack of hard facts from either side after five days of this flap is ridiculous. Does no one understand how to formulate a factual rebuttal any more?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/179 "2009-09-14T18:33:51Z")

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Can anyone enlighten me as to just what evil things ACORN would have been able to do as one of nearly 80,000 organizations the Census has ‘partnered’ with to help get the word out about the 2010 Census?

Seriously, what superpowers would the Census Bureau have granted to that many different organizations?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-glenn-beck-buh-bye-acorn/509754/180 "2009-09-14T18:37:46Z")

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OK, I concede, ACORN sucks. Now what?

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