# Thank you mods for lowering the volume of the troll wars.

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**Created:** [October 30, 2000, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904 "2000-10-30T06:59:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wanderlust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc29f/32.png) [@Wanderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wanderlust)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/1 "2000-10-30T06:59:11Z")

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Everytime I see a major banning shootout, I see people praise the mods.  
But then I cringe as there are a couple of days of childish insult threads to follow.

I’d just like to do praise the mods when the problem is settled sensibly.

In the first case, the speculation thread is closed and the speculator advised to procede by email.

In the final quote we see that a second case has been successfully handled in just such a mature fashion, behind the scenes.

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> _Originally posted by UncleBeer Moderator_  
> Ya know \_\_\_\_\_\_\_, the best way to handle this would have been to notify a moderator or administrator. They’d have told you we were already aware of the name \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ and there’s absolutely no indications that it belongs to the banned \_\_\_\_\_\_\_. All you are going to accomplish with a thread like this is generate ill will. Next time please exercise your judgement.

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> _Originally posted by John Corrado Moderator_  
> At the request of the OP, I’m going to close this thread.
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> However, I’m going to make a few words at the eulogy for this thread.
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> 1.) \_\_\_\_\_\_\_, is, at this point, a fine member of this board and we see little connection between him and the former troll that went by \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ or whatnot.
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> 2.) I wish to go on record stating that I’d prefer all suspicions regarding possible trolls and returned posters to be kept to e-mails to the moderators. Less ill-will all around, and besides, if the person you suspect _is_ actually a returned troll, do you _really_ want him to show up here with all of his sock puppets trying to defend himself? Didn’t think so.

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> _Originally posted by TubaDiva Administrator_  
> For your information:
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> 1. _ **is NOT "** _." Unless there’s been some incredibly big changes and I don’t see that going on.
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> 2. We need to give people the benefit of the doubt around here unless/until it is obvious that they’re up to no good. It’s a big ol’ world and there’s lots of folks in it, and duplications of screen names is not unusual.
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> 3. If you have suspicions one of our former problem children has returned in a new guise, all you have to do is send us email and we’ll investigate it. In fact, just found one today that would have escaped us for a little longer except we were tipped by a member of the Teeming Millions.
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> your humble TubaDiva  
> Administrator \*\*

Thank you, mods for this. I sincerely hope it becomes the norm around here.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/2 "2000-10-30T13:16:03Z")

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Yes, this was an especially distasteful episode, and I too was very grateful that the Moderators and Administration put a stop to it before it turned into another freaking witch hunt, complete with the obligatory torches and pitchforks.

Damn. Now that Rush song is in my head again… 🙂

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**Author:** ![SIA\_Sorry\_I\_Asked](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@SIA\_Sorry\_I\_Asked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SIA_Sorry_I_Asked)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/3 "2000-10-30T16:20:57Z")

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I agree, they are all pretty pointless. The number of people pointed at lately is shameful. A lot of names tossed around for nothing, except to hurt regular people, which just makes everyone else cringe with them.

Glad to hear the mods are lowering the volume.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/4 "2000-10-30T17:29:11Z")

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What did I miss?

As near as I can tell, “send us email” has _always_ been Board policy.

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**Author:** ![Greener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Greener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greener)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/5 "2000-10-30T20:02:54Z")

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You seemed to have missed a lot.  
There have been 4-5 troll accusation threads going at once lately (some you seem to be adding to).  
It does make me nervous, having a low post count.  
I doubt the words of 3 mods will change that, though. There’s still Alphagen saying things like this to start rumors himself:  
“Wow, you sure are in a big rush to defend the OP, do you know him? Friend of yours? It’s funny. richman2 did the same thing in a now locked thread. He also made a tactless post on this MB that should have been a simple email response to Tuba. Friends with him too?”

Anyway, I think it’s nice some mods realize this business of questioning everyone’s motives just puts a damper on free discussion.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/6 "2000-10-30T21:11:50Z")

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> There have been 4-5 troll accusation threads going at once lately (some you seem to be adding to).

Ummmm . . . ok. I post to a fairly high number of threads. Could you please post a link or two so I know the specifics? I’d hate to be accused of unfairly disparaging anyone without knowing whom I’m disparaging and in what context. Thanks.

And I am still under the impression that “send us email” has always been Board policy.

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**Author:** ![Fanny\_May](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3be4f8/32.png) [@Fanny\_May](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fanny_May)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/7 "2000-10-30T21:45:38Z")

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Thank you, moderators, for reminding us of this.

It does need to be repeated from time to time, I think, like any board policy, because in the heat of the moment of “discovery” people do tend to forget what their options are.

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**Author:** ![Fanny\_May](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3be4f8/32.png) [@Fanny\_May](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fanny_May)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/8 "2000-10-30T21:50:25Z")

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You don’t seem to disparage people, even if you do add to a thread with troll speculations.  
In fact, I think you tend to quell the speculation, and that’s a thing that should be applauded as well.

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/9 "2000-10-30T22:16:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Greener \*  
> **There’s still Alphagen saying things like this to start rumors himself:**

Oh please. Even if I did get a huge kick out of speading rumors about newbies, we don’t ban people based on rumors.

Besides, if you were a bit more familiar with the SDMB, Green, you’d know that I am one of the most vocal opponents of publicly “outing” suspected trolls. In fact I responded similarly to such an attempted troll outing [_months_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=32598) ago.

So, as andros pointed out, discouraging public troll outings has been pretty much SOP at the SDMB for quite some time now.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/10 "2000-10-30T23:10:52Z")

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> Besides, if you were a bit more familiar with the SDMB, Green, you’d know that I am one of the most vocal opponents of publicly “outing” suspected trolls.

This is true. Alphagine always turns a good ol’ Tar & Featherin’ into a good ol’ Grease & Spoonin’. But hey, he brings marshmallows, so everyone’s happy 😃

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/11 "2000-10-31T02:44:17Z")

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> Oh please. Even if I did get a huge kick out of speading rumors about newbies, we don’t ban people based on rumors.

Something tells me I’m going to see this line quoted, followed by an accusation that it’s a lie sometime in the future. I think Tuba’s quote about bad behavior being the only thing that gets people banned is starting to get old.

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**Author:** ![That\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@That\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/12 "2000-10-31T03:04:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> **Oh please. Even if I did get a huge kick out of speading rumors about newbies…**

LOL! You didn’t spread rumors! You condemned a guy who did Zip. Zero.

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> \*\*If this is something the OP felt that TubaDiva should know, he should have emailed her.
> 
> You see, by having this dire need to post everything out in the open rather than take it to email (which is the intelligent thing to do) Saint is essentially trying to make a big scene out of nothing. A cybertantrum, if you will. In fact he’s well on his way to being just another screen name who contributes very little to this board aside from Mod-bashing, which, by the way, belongs in the Pit. .\*\*

What a bashing. Then you look up and see all the guy did was say he was using a public terminal. Gee, and after someone just _was_ banned for exactly that.

I think you are right, though, that nothings changed. I got creamed royal by a mod and it does make you think differently about them.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/13 "2000-10-31T03:15:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by waterj2 \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > Oh please. Even if I did get a huge kick out of speading rumors about newbies, we don’t ban people based on rumors.
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> Something tells me I’m going to see this line quoted, followed by an accusation that it’s a lie sometime in the future. I think Tuba’s quote about bad behavior being the only thing that gets people banned is starting to get old.  
> \*\*

20 minutes.

Nice call, waterj2.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/14 "2000-10-31T03:19:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by waterj2 \*  
> Something tells me I’m going to see this line quoted, followed by an accusation that it’s a lie sometime in the future.

Did you think it would only take 20min.'s ?

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**Author:** ![That\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@That\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/15 "2000-10-31T03:21:35Z")

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:wally

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/16 "2000-10-31T03:22:02Z")

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Aahh simulposts don’t you love’em.

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**Author:** ![Wanderlust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc29f/32.png) [@Wanderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wanderlust)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/17 "2000-10-31T03:33:18Z")

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I guess I’ve said that, and I do mean it.  
I’ve asked that this thread be closed.

I just hope all the rowdies above remember the main point, that

**Email Saves Lives, and The Life You Save May Be Your Own**.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/18 "2000-10-31T03:36:20Z")

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I do think there needs to be a serious crackdown on people - RP’s or not - who spend the time to announce publicly their “troll sightings”, rather than just doing what was requested - submitting the proof to the nearest Mod or Admin.

And yes, in the “British Invasion”, I did wrong by jumping on the troll-sighting bandwagon. I don’t and won’t do that anymore.

PS:

Hey **Piano** - long time no see. I really think you should get a picture where you aren’t smoking. 😉

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/19 "2000-10-31T03:47:33Z")

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Whoa. I’m, like, clairvoyant or something. As far as the trollhunting issue goes, I only remember one instance of accusations being posted on the boards in the last few days. I know I’ve alerted the mods by email a couple times in the past myself, and would like to say I’ve been happy with the results. I’m sure there’s a whole lot more that goes on over email without any disruption on the boards.

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**Author:** ![That\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@That\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mods-for-lowering-the-volume-of-the-troll-wars/38904/20 "2000-10-31T04:24:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> \*\*  
> Hey _Piano_ - long time no see. I really think you should get a picture where you aren’t smoking. 😉 \*\*

Yes! Thanks for reminding me.  
I absolutely _tanked_ with my last photo on this thread

\*\* [Would you post your photo here?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=801433#post801433)\*\*

I got my photo rated by total strangers, who hated it!\*  
What others thought  
3.3  
based on 3415 votes \*  
I should be getting a photo from a Halloween party tomorrow. Someone always has a camera. This time I’ll have them wait until I know it’s being taken!

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