# Thank you Mr, Clarke **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232 "2004-03-25T00:14:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/121 "2004-03-31T21:23:44Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > Why not, you guys are doing the same thing to Bush over 911 Yes, the exact same information was available in 1993 as in 2001. [raps on flickster’s skull] Hello?..anybody home?.. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/122 "2004-03-31T21:32:22Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > **Merijeek** , please keep watching The Comedy Channel and maybe, just maybe, you’ll start to develop a sense of humor. > > I enjoy Jon Stewart & Lewis Black as a good source for a few laughs, but not as a sole source for news. Let’s see what the little monkey assumes in only two sentences. First of all, that I watch “The Comedy Channel”. No such thing. I do watch “Comedy Central”, however. Second, that I don’t have a sense of humor. Not only do I have one, bit it’s fully developed. The severe level of mental retardation you exhibit must make you miss that. Third, Jon Stewart and Lewis Black are not my sole source for news. Three incorrect statements in two sentences. That’s pretty fucking awesome. Throw in something about yellowcake and Iraqi bioweapon drones and you could probably get a job with the BushCo administration. So, what have you contributed to this thread? There’s the old monkeylogic chestnut of “…but Clinton…”. Which is just hilarious becuase you sad little bitches just dig it out over and over. There’s the idea that anyone who appears on The Daily Show has absolutely no credibility. We’ll just look at **bnorton** ’s list and see you’re even dumber than thought possible. Oh, and the fucking fantastic idea that all proceeds for everything should be given to charity. If said proceeds aren’t given to charity, then whomever is making them is doing it strictly for eeeevil reasons. Really, it’s just pathtic. I could go through and point out how idiotic pretty much everything you’ve said in this thread is…but why bother? See, all you’ve done is swing wildly (and feebly) because you have no **facts**. The sad thing is that there are enough people around as stupid as you are. And because of that, your little monkeyleader may actually get four more years to continue running this country even further below ground. The average person isn’t that bright. You’re obviously sub-average. Congratulations! -Joe, hoping **flickster** ’s group home pulls the plug on their net connection ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/123 "2004-03-31T21:41:34Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > Why not, you guys are doing the same thing to Bush over 911 That’s a fucking moronic thing for you to say after bitching about Clinton not connecting his single dot back in the early 90’s. Several new dots appeared over the course of the decade, including the Cole bombing in the last months of the Clinton afministration, and now you want to let Bush off because he only got the one dot on his watch?\*\* The dots don’t go away every time we get some new guy in the white house\*\*. Clinton’s dots were there for Bush to connect as he pleased. His pleasure was to space them off. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/124 "2004-03-31T22:31:29Z")
Well, my oh my, we have come full circle. This whole sequence started when you proud few started frothing at the mouth when I made mention of the Clinton/Clarke team having 8 years during which time they only managed to toss a few symbolic cruise missles at a couple of questionable targets (one being an aspirin factory). You screamed bloody murder at having to place a “dot” on the WTC bombing in 1993. You cry because your knight in shining armour (Clarke) was shown to have notable credibility problems. You’re all upset that Kerry is still trailing in the polls even though he should be still riding high from the primaries. So taking all of those items into account, I’ll overlook all the name calling that has been included in your responses (after all this is the pit) Thanks for providing my cheap entertainment for the afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/125 "2004-04-01T09:20:42Z")
Flickster, I notice that in spite of all the colorful words you’ve used, like “scream”, “cry”, “frothing”, etc., you haven’t refuted a single thing we called you on. Guess you’ve got nothing, huh? And your crowning acheivement: "You’re all upset that Kerry is still trailing in the polls even though he should be still riding high from the primaries. " Yeah - you bowled me over with that logic. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/126 "2004-04-01T10:50:25Z")
God Bless Somerby [http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh033104.shtml](http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh033104.shtml) > [@](#): > > IPHIGENIA AND ALAN: Three spin-points you won’t hear recited by all your “liberal” pundits: > > 1. Rice’s appearance before the commission? That’s just Bush’s latest **flip-flop** , like Homeland Security and campaign finance. > Why is Karen Hughes **profiteering** from her offensive new book? > Rice’s latest misstatement (in Monday’s op-ed) shows that she lacks **credibility**. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/127 "2004-04-01T11:23:24Z")
> [@bnorton](#): > > Karen Hughes will appear on _The Daily Show_ tonight. Henry Kissinger. Madeline Albright, Bob Dole, John Edwards, Tom Brokaw, John McCain… all have been guests, . Yes, and to be fair, they have all tried to get laughs from the audience. Stewart will ask real questions, but will also illicit tounge-in-cheek responses. His guests always try to play along. So, things said on _The Daily Show_ cannot always be taken at face value. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/128 "2004-04-01T12:06:33Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > You’re all upset that Kerry is still trailing in the polls even though he should be still riding high from the primaries. Hands up anyone who can spot the trend in this graph: [Occasional graphology Data from pollingreport.com. Approval Ratings, G W Bush](http://nasilemak.blogspot.com/2004_03_28_nasilemak_archive.html#108066053879869096) ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/129 "2004-04-01T19:32:48Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > Yes, and to be fair, they have all tried to get laughs from the audience. > > Stewart will ask real questions, but will also illicit tounge-in-cheek responses. His guests always try to play along. > > So, things said on _The Daily Show_ cannot always be taken at face value. I wasn’t going to insert myself into this hijack, but I can’t stay out any longer. You’d have to be pretty dense not to be able to tell the difference between when Stewart is making a joke and when he’s talking about a real event. There is no attempt to blur the distinction on that show. The format is: (1) Headline news, which takes real news stories and makes ironic comments on them. (2) An obviously tongue-in-cheek “field interview”, (3) A commentary by Black or others, (4) a REAL interview with a REAL celebrity, which may or may not contain jokes. I’ve heard Larry King make a joke once in awhile, does that automatically invalidate anything a guest ever says on his show? ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/130 "2004-04-01T19:37:33Z")
Hmmm…that should have read “_One_ would have to be pretty dense…” I didn’t intend that as an insult to you, spooje. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/131 "2004-04-01T20:18:14Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > Well, my oh my, we have come full circle. This whole sequence started when youc proud few started frothing at the mouth when I made mention of the Clinton/Clarke team having 8 years during which time they only managed to toss a few symbolic cruise missles at a couple of questionable targets (one being an aspirin factory). Yeah, back then it was called “Wagging the dog” because Clinton was only taking some shots at some damned Arab nobody had ever heard of. You know, to distract the Pubbies from a blowjob. Because, as a Democrat, he couldn’t possibly have been doing anything for the right reasons… > [@flickster](#): > > You screamed bloody murder at having to place a “dot” on the WTC bombing in 1993. You cry because your knight in shining armour (Clarke) was shown to have notable credibility problems. You’re all upset that Kerry is still trailing in the polls even though he should be still riding high from the primaries. So taking all of those items into account, I’ll overlook all the name calling that has been included in your responses (after all this is the pit) > > Thanks for providing my cheap entertainment for the afternoon. Really? Unlike you, I have no trouble remembering things that I don’t like. I remember the first WTC bombing. It was on Clinton’s watch, and those responsible were caught. Bin Laden and the like were struck at (and missed), and further attacks were pretty much out of the question due to Pubbie screaming about blowjobs and wagged dogs. Kerry should be doing better, but I’ll chalk that up to the five times an hour I see Bush ads while I’m watching TV, while I haven’t seen anything from Kerry, yet. Besides, if showing yourself to be a jackass suffering from near-total cognitive dissonance is a “cheap” price to pay for your entertainment…well, that says alot. -Joe, allowed to own sharp objects ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/132 "2004-04-02T03:15:47Z")
> [@blowero](#): > > Hmmm…that should have read “_One_ would have to be pretty dense…” I didn’t intend that as an insult to you, spooje. Well, I didn’t see the show when Clarke was on. All I’m saying is that I’d have to see the interview to trust a quote from that show. I have seen him joke with political figures. And I have seen them say some things in jest that would appear more serious in a printed form where you didn’t hear the tone of voice or see the context of the quote. If we look at the quote, or rather, **Merijeek** seemingly unattributed quote, it does look like something that _could_ be said in jest or hyperbole. > [@](#): > > Clarke said that there’s staffers at the White House whose entire purpose is to call people like Limbaugh and Hannity and tell them what topics to cover, and what to say. I didn’t know those whores actually had a direct line to the White House. Anybody got a link to the transcript? I can’t download the video on my machine. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/133 "2004-04-02T05:07:44Z")
Update on the “Clarke is a big fag” developments. We already knew about the “unamed administration sources are hinting at weird elements in his life” thing that Blitzer said, and later, unconvincingly, tried to retract. Well Laura Ingraham apparently just recetnly reffered to Dick Clarke as a ‘little fop.’ Anyone who knows anything about how the right wing attack machine works knows that rumors like this get fed through a grapevine in order to coordinate subtle changes in language and then building to the outright charges (for reference, see the “Kerry seems too French” nonsense) Looks like someone is pushing the “Clarke is a bitter old queen” line under the covers. I doubt the WH wants to be associated with it, but they know that this is a great way to discredit the man among the base they fear losing the most due to his “very dangerous” accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232/134 "2004-04-02T05:14:06Z")
I’ve watched the clip. He never says that there are staffers who’s actual official job it is to give Rove and Hannity talking points. What he says is that the White house is calling right wing radio people and news channels to coordinate talking points against Clarke IN THIS CASE. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-mr-clarke/236232.md?page=6)