# Thanks A Lot UncleBeer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2000, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350 "2000-11-02T04:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/21 "2000-11-02T08:07:18Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Alphagene \* \*\* > [@](#): > > So the only possible conclusions are: > > We moderators have either released a mind control gas into the atmosphere that causes every SDMB poster to love us unconditionally. And you, MadHatter, happen to be immune to it. Oh and Goldilocks too. Alphagene you know that you are a no good low down d… hey, what’s that smell ? Why is it foggy in here all of a sudden ? What was I saying ? Oh yeah I remember now. I will obey Alphagene and agree with everything he says. I love Alphagene. Alphagene can do no wrong. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/22 "2000-11-02T08:36:51Z")
> [@](#): > > One thing I have learnt from these board is that no matter what an administrator does, no matter how they do it, and no matter who they do it to, almost every regular poster will come out and pledge their 100% support for them. Well, personally, I think Alphagene is a cow-munging dickhead with an ego the size of Jupiter. However, compared to you, he’s Cecil Adams and Jesus friggin’ Christ rolled into one. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/23 "2000-11-02T09:02:40Z")
I think posters here fall into two groups. Ones who consider posting here a divine right granted by God himself, but constantly at the mercy of arbitrary caretakers and ones who consider themselves guests of the Chicago Reader and administered by a few people selected by it. Those of us in the second group often take care to act with the respect that is due to our host. Perhaps the guest-host relationship is not taken seriously by some, but I’d venture that most of us here would not try to get fellow guests at a dinner party to insult the host. Oh, and Lynn, have I told you lately that I love you? Let it be known that there are those of us here who would love to see you put up with less of this crap. I’m all for free discussion, but when you are hosting the discussion, there is no reason to put up with the attacks of the perennially malcontent. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/24 "2000-11-02T11:00:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > **For that matter, I think that I’m going to start doing searches on a lot of people tonight. Anyone who is only griping about the way the message board is being run will be banned. Anyone who is MOSTLY griping about the message board will likely be banned. If your only posts are complaints about the way this place is run, then I’m gonna show you the door.** Lynn, if this wasn’t the Pit, I’d kiss you on the mouth. Here and now. Maybe even with tongue. This is EXACTLY what should happen. It’s more than OK to have criticism regarding the way the board is run. HOWEVER, it has to be in some sort of healthy ratio to your posts that DON’T address board issues. These whiners that have been flooding ATMB lately are exactly the ones that don’t fit that description. Want to comment? Contribute first. And of COURSE Unc wasn’t attacking Fathom, its rules, or its regulars. He was merely pointing out what can happen when an idiot gets the option to edit his words. He could have taken any editable board, but logically Fathom was the first one he could think of. That’s my take on things, anyway. Goldie, you’re the only one seeing an attack here. I’m curious whether you will fit Lynn’s new rules. In fact, I know you won’t. Buh-bye. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/25 "2000-11-02T12:05:58Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Alphagene \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*\* > \*\* > We moderators have either released a mind control gas into the atmosphere that causes every SDMB poster to love us unconditionally. And you, MadHatter, happen to be immune to it. Oh and Goldilocks too. > > OR > > Your fervent antimod opinion is based on a personal grudge most other posters would find petty. > > Now do we really need Occam to drag his razor in here? \*\* OR \*\*Much like in real life, most people like sucking up to the ‘big guy’ which is is exactly what happens on here. The big guys are the admins. They have also seen and witnessed that every time someone questions an admin’s decision, they get absolutely cained by fellow posters, get accused of trolling, being annoying, are told to get a life, etc etc. That is what is happening on this board. So let me re-state: **I challenge any of you to come up with a post where almost everyone was in total agreement that the admin had stuffed up - you can’t do it** Until you come up with a post of this nature, don’t bore me with your ramblings which are based on trying to avoid my point. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/26 "2000-11-02T12:09:39Z")
Hey, MadHatter. [Lookie here!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=8465) An entire thread full of people openly disagreeing with the entire administration of the SD. Granted, some of them aren’t among us anymore, but a lot are. So hey, I guess it can be done. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/27 "2000-11-02T12:17:14Z")
The thread was made by an admin, criticising a fellow admin. Of course “a” majority of people are going to come out and say that “an” admin is wrong. Either they agree with Admin No. 1, or Admin No. 2. It’s a technicality which can’t be avoided. However, my challenge was indicating you to find a post made by a normal poster which was flaming an admin, that the majority of people supported. - It can’t be done, because no such thread exists. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/28 "2000-11-02T12:25:32Z")
If the majority of posters would routinely disagree with the administration, this place would be a lot less crowded. So no, the majority is indeed very unlikely to disagree with the administration. It’s only logical. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/29 "2000-11-02T12:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*If the majority of posters would routinely disagree with the administration, this place would be a lot less crowded. So no, the majority is indeed very unlikely to disagree with the administration. It’s only logical. \*\* By ‘very unlikely’ I am assuming what you actually mean is ‘absolute impossibility’. I’m not asking you to find examples of where posters routinely disagree with the admins. I’m not asking you to find examples of where ‘sometimes’ the posters disagree with the admins. Heck, I’m not even asking you to find **some odd, rare examples** of where the posters disagree with the admins. I am aking you to find… just **one.** ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/30 "2000-11-02T12:55:05Z")
So now the fact that no one agrees with you is proof that you are right? We respect, trust, and appreciate our administrators enough that unless we feel strongly about something, we give them the benefit of the doubt. If anyone consistently dislikes the administration, why would they stay here? I’d say it’s far more likely that people here are overwhelmingly in in agreement with the administration. We come here because we like it here. We like it here, in no insignificant part, because of the job the administration does. I challenge you to find a message board where the posters occasionally get openly hostile towards their hosts. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/31 "2000-11-02T13:07:39Z")
No one scares of cows me into agreeing with them. I agree with the Administrators and the Moderators 99% of the time because…I agree with them 99% of the time. No other reason. But if I really didn’t agree with some major aspect of the board and had an irreconcilable difference with it, I would just leave. For even though I’ve told many people - especially **TubaDiva** - how much the board and it’s surrounding community means to me, well, it is just one web board. That having been said, I don’t like hearing the refrain “don’t let the door hit you on the ass when you leave” applied as often as it is by fellow members. It perhaps would not have to be said so often if initial complaints and arguments about board function and form were phrased more constructively, true. And like **Lynn** alluded to, if the person making the complaints was not devoting a very large portion of their time to doing nothing but “fighting the power!”. As to the Melin incident posted earlier - that was just bizarre, but it sounded very similar to the sort of shit I have had to go through many times with angry members (ex-members now 🙂 ) of my Users Group, and I sympathize 110% with **Ed** on it. I too have received the mails threatening to sue over some imagined or irrelevant slight. Fortunately my company has the ability to fight nuisance lawsuits, and does - unlike the Chicago Reader, which operates this board at a loss. It really bothers me to know that we all may be just one nuisance lawsuit away from having lighter fluid poured over the server and the match struck. However, perhaps if that happens then some of the more vocal lawyers on this board will offer to defend the Chicago Reader pro bono…? Una ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/32 "2000-11-02T14:48:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 24KaratGold \* > **And if I lurk more than post, well, maybe that’s because I have a life.** Oh, you little coprophagous pest. Perhaps that is true, if you construe life as seeing how many knuckles you can squeeze into the local cat’s asshole. ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/33 "2000-11-02T15:05:17Z")
Lynn, I would check out this thread from April. Nothing’s changed, I vote to ban the idiot. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=10306](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=10306) ---
**Author:** ![24KaratGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/cc9497/32.png) [@24KaratGold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/24KaratGold)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/34 "2000-11-02T15:36:33Z")
My my my, what a fuss over a simple criticism which used no profanity nor made any personal attacks. It was pretty mild, all things considered. Does this mean that no one can ever express an opinion that anyone, moderator or no (and I would have made that same OP of whoever had made that post, UncleBeer or any member poster), did something that maybe they shouldn’t have? Most of you on this thread will have to shut up, then. The “feel free” was as to the statement by Lynn that she was going to search all my posts and if 2/3 or more of them were “roiling” then ban me. It was admittedly a flip comment made late at night, but the point of it was to show that I wasn’t afraid of meeting that standard. Goldie ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/35 "2000-11-02T15:39:56Z")
I’m sorry 24K, who are you, again? I don’t think I can ever reading anything you written before. Hmmm, odd. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/36 "2000-11-02T15:48:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\*I’m sorry 24K, who are you, again? I don’t think I can ever reading anything you written before. Hmmm, odd. \*\* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Is that the best you’ve got ?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH!!! And Karat… I understand you would have made the OP regardless of whether it was an admin or not who made the post. My point is though, it is impossible to draw support from fellow posters if the person you are flaming is an admin. Had the person you were flaming been a regular poster, you would have drawn a heck of a lot more support then what you are getting now. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/37 "2000-11-02T16:01:10Z")
May I simply copy two sentences from this thread and hope that’ll kill the controversy? This is all very simple. > [@](#): > > It IS unfair to point to concrete as an example anywhere. and > [@](#): > > … pointing out a worst-case scenario. That’s all there is to it. Now all of you go to your rooms. No dinner for you tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/38 "2000-11-02T16:13:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MadHatter \* > \*\*HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! > > Is that the best you’ve got ?!?!\*\* _Little Tiny **Ukulele Ike** in a Red Suit and Horns Sitting On **UncleBeer’s** Left Shoulder:_ “Psssst! G’wan back and make your post funnier!” _Little Tiny **Ukulele Ike** in a White Robe and Halo Sitting on **UncleBeer’s** Right Shoulder:_ “No, **UncleBeer,** NO! That would be WRONG!” ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/39 "2000-11-02T16:14:36Z")
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!@@@@!!! Is that all you got??? That’s pathetic@!! Uhm. I mean: wow, Unc. Looking good today. New hairdo? You’re right MadHatter. We’re all suckups, afraid to vent our held back criticism. Which is why we take out our frustrations on newbies that ask dumb questions. Or Olbies that raise dead issues. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350/40 "2000-11-02T16:19:43Z")
> [@](#): > > [sup]Madhatter[/sup] > Had the person you were flaming been a regular poster, you would have drawn a heck of a lot more support then what you are getting now. I doubt it. I _do_ think **UncleBeer** made a mistake by using the example he did in the ATMB thread. There are sensitivities and whether or not it was calculated to inflame them, it was somewhat likely that it would. Stirring the possum about such matters was foolish, and IMHO not saying so in thread doesn’t help. But support **24KaratGold**? No-one’s going to do that because he’s patently taking the opportunity to stir the shit. Again. > [@](#): > > [sup]24KaratGold[/sup] > what a fuss over a simple criticism which used no profanity nor made any personal attacks. It was pretty mild, all things considered. Bull. It was a blatant attempt to reopen old wounds, from someone who clearly has nothing better to do than wait around for an opportune moment to spew bile for old time’s sake. > [@](#): > > Most of you on this thread will have to shut up, then. A deal: we’ll shut up if you fuck off. picmr [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-a-lot-unclebeer/39350.md?page=3)