# Thanks fuckhead

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328 "2003-06-30T12:28:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![badmana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@badmana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badmana)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/21 "2003-06-30T16:21:11Z")

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How was your system affected? This sounds really bad if it made it through 2 firewalls…of course if it’s an email attachment that’s different. Or if it attached itself to something you downloaded. A firewall is only good for blocking scanners and network intruders.

How did it cost you $500? It didn’t kill your HDs did it?

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/22 "2003-06-30T16:41:21Z")

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**badmana** It hasn’t cost me that much yet but I’m going to have to take it to the shop to get all the information retrieved because it wiped out/corrupted Windows XP… This is the error message I’m getting:

" Windows could not start because the following info is corrupt or missing.  
\<Windowsroot\>\System32\NTOSKRNL.exe.  
Please reinstall a copy of the above file."

I can’t get into the desktop, startup screen or anything.

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**Author:** ![Daizy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daizy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daizy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/23 "2003-06-30T16:57:48Z")

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Hi pencilpusher.  
Have you tried running a repair from your XP CD?

Daizy

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/24 "2003-06-30T17:06:06Z")

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**Daizy** Yes I have but I can’t get to any screen except the one that says what I posted a few minutes ago so I can’t RUN anything ☹

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**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/25 "2003-06-30T17:11:32Z")

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Check your BIOS for your Boot Sequence. It should be “CDROM” on the first position. Your XP CD is not booting.

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**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/26 "2003-06-30T17:16:36Z")

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DO NOT let anyone fool with your PC. You haven’t lost your data yet. I would suggest maybe posting your problem in GQ. Although this is not a tech board,there are some really good IT techs hanging around.

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**Author:** ![Daizy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daizy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daizy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/27 "2003-06-30T17:18:25Z")

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You might want to skim through [Billy’s suggestions](http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314477) on how to fix this.

I’m a little lost on how you decided it was a virus?

Daizy

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/28 "2003-06-30T17:19:40Z")

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Have a buddy who, 12 years ago, decided he wanted a PC more than anything in the world. Why? Cos he wanted to WRITE VIRII. He wanted to be a hardcore hacker and write a huge, self-replicating virus. Luckilly, he didn’t get his own PC until 2-3 years later, after he’d talked to a lot of people in the field. He’s now quite a competent IT security admnisitrator, and one of the most rabid anti-virus-programmers I’ve ever met. Does my heart good to know that such dick-headedness isn’t incurable.

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**Author:** ![hilltopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@hilltopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hilltopper)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/29 "2003-06-30T17:22:34Z")

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pencilpusher: I feel for you! What a waste of time, money, and emotional energy.

But wow…it really seems like a lot of these posters doubt the veracity of your story. There have been challenges to your math, your spending priorities, your anti-virus software, the plausibility of a virus breaking two fire walls, your chanting choices (OHM) ………………and yes this small issue of just how you are posting these messages if your computer is on the blink. Are you at the library?

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/30 "2003-06-30T17:30:00Z")

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**hilltopper** no I’m on MY personal computer. The one with the problem is my husbands puter.

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**Author:** ![Hauky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/0ea827/32.png) [@Hauky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hauky)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/31 "2003-06-30T17:36:46Z")

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Er, yeah, that’d be your kernel, which is the core of the operating system. Without that, _nothing_ runs. That’s one efficient virus.

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**Author:** ![Hauky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/0ea827/32.png) [@Hauky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hauky)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/32 "2003-06-30T17:38:03Z")

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Of course, my reply is about 20 minutes too late, and not too accurate to boot. Phooey.

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/33 "2003-06-30T17:39:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Daizy \*  
> \*\*You might want to skim through [Billy’s suggestions](http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314477) on how to fix this.
> 
> I’m a little lost on how you decided it was a virus?
> 
> Daizy \*\*

From all the indications it’s a virus but it COULD be hardware related. The symptoms started yesterday with different applications becoming corrupt one after another. It started after I opened an email from a coworker that had some info needed for my work. I don’t know if the email was corrupt but it was scanned both before download and after (before opening it) and nothing showed as corrupt. I’m really hoping it’s not hardware related… :eek:

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/34 "2003-06-30T18:30:08Z")

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If it’s XP, you should be able to do a System Restore and go back to when it was working. We just talked **Coldfire** through it in a different thread.

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**Author:** ![badmana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@badmana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badmana)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/35 "2003-06-30T19:28:00Z")

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If it deleted a file (boot up on a floppy if you have one and run a search) then it’s either one strange virus or your HD ran into a bad sector (it’s happend to me on a $500 IBM deskstar).

Boot on your XP CDROM…it _will_ work. Your BIOS might not be set right but windows will 100% boot as long as your BIOS is intact (which it most likely is).

Boot up, run a DOS only virus program (just to cover your bases) then run scandisk…it’s probably a lost cluster or worse, a bad sector (if you run into a bunch of errors including directory errors and such, you’re probably SOL).

that particular file can be extracted (if it’s the only one missing which I doubt) via the cab files in your CD. Pre-win XP allowed you to extract said files. XP should be similar.

It’s a good thing you have a second computer. You can tranfer via floppy all the programs you need to fix this.

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/36 "2003-06-30T19:41:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*If it’s XP, you should be able to do a System Restore and go back to when it was working. We just talked **Coldfire** through it in a different thread. \*\*

Whats the cite and I’ll see if I can follow it  
or you can IM me at Mastersnaja@msn

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**Author:** ![Daizy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daizy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daizy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/37 "2003-06-30T21:10:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I can’t get into the desktop, startup screen or anything.

Wait a minute. You’re not going to be able to use system restore, if you can’t boot. Though, that would be lovely.  
Again, I still think your best bet is the CD boot and repair/ recovery.

Daizy

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**Author:** ![Daizy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daizy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daizy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/38 "2003-06-30T21:14:59Z")

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_crap_ Meant to add… unless you do it through a [command prompt.](http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=304449)

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**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/39 "2003-06-30T21:51:14Z")

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CD repair/recovery is your only option. NToskernel means “NT Operating System Kernel” which is the drivers for your sound and video card and everything else it takes to run GUI. (Graphical User Interface). System Restore works inside the GUI and is a piece of shit holdover from ME.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-fuckhead/185328/40 "2003-06-30T22:35:25Z")

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[hijack]

If I caught a guy or gal sending viruses, I’d print out the entire content of my hard drive in binary form on a dot matrix printer, with the ‘green bar’ paper (18" wide) and forcefeed it to them.

And they’d have to eat the tear-off feedroller hole things, too.  
[/hijack]

Tripler  
That’s assuming they _find_ a dot matrix printer. And buy it themselves.

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