# Thanks so much, George W Bastard!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 18, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969 "2001-07-18T19:19:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/1 "2001-07-18T19:19:47Z")

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Well, look here, it’s my first paycheck since the adjustments for the big tax cut. Last paycheck before the cut I had $70.48 withheld for federal and $52.28 withheld for FICA. This check I had $81.59 withheld for federal and $57.94 withheld for FICA. And on this check I had an hour less pay to be taxed! Gee, I thought the tax cut was supposed to help the lower-to-middle income taxpayers like me. Instead it looks like my taxes actually went up! At least my withholding did. More money out of my pocket, and after you promised your tax cut would return the (now rapidly dwindling) surplus to the people. Fucking lying sonofabitch rat-bastard creep.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/2 "2001-07-18T19:26:53Z")

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Don’t blame me, I voted for Ralp. . . oh, oops. Never mind. . . But I can’t bitch too much because I just got the IRS letter announcing the 600 bucks I will get in September.  
Can’t explain your withholding, though.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/3 "2001-07-18T19:33:17Z")

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A. **Otto** tell me you didn’t really believe the ‘I promise every taxpayer will pay less taxes’ line. I knew it wouldn’t filter to me, and sure enough by the time it came out, the bracket I was in was to remain untouched.

B. **capybara** you are aware, aren’t you, that the IRS made mistakes in many of the letters, promising the top amount to some folks that won’t get that, right?

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/4 "2001-07-18T19:38:00Z")

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It is possible that someone at your worksite in payroll made a mistake. Download the withholding tables from the [IRS forms page](http://www.irs.gov/forms_pubs/formpub2.html) and check it out for yourself.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/5 "2001-07-18T19:43:28Z")

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No, I wasn’t expecting to see a dime of any tax cut. I was not expecting to see my withholding go UP.

Zev, which form or publication am I looking for?

Shrub is still a rat-bastard…

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/6 "2001-07-18T20:55:06Z")

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Just out of curiosity, Otto, does someone claim you as a dependant?

I just did the math on my latest paycheck, and I am bringing home just over $6 per check more with the cut. Eh, seems marginal, but it’ll mean about $150 at the end of the year. Combine that with the $300 I get in a couple months – I’m not complaining.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/7 "2001-07-18T22:25:56Z")

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capybara; There Was no Ralp on the ticket.  
😉

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/8 "2001-07-18T22:27:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
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> Zev, which form or publication am I looking for?
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My guess would be Publ 15-T New Withholding Tables for 2001 (dated 6/12/01).

The link is [here](http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p15t.pdf). It is a PDF file, and as such, you will need Acrobat’s PDF reader to get it.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/9 "2001-07-18T22:41:28Z")

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I was (and still am) opposed to the tax cut, but since we got it I might as well enjoy it. And hell, I’m in the highest tax bracket, so I’ll be raking it in, right?

Got my first paycheck after the changes in withholding. The feds are now taking 0.68% less of my pay. Oh, yeah, I’m dancing in the streets.

Now excuse me, I must go out and stimulate the American economy.

Sua

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/10 "2001-07-18T23:10:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \*  
> **Now excuse me, I must go out and stimulate the American economy.**

This sounds vaguely obscene.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/11 "2001-07-19T00:59:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Dr. Lao \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \*  
> > **Now excuse me, I must go out and stimulate the American economy.**
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> This sounds vaguely obscene. \*\*

Which no doubt means someone will be asking **Sua** to use it as their sig line.

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**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/12 "2001-07-19T06:27:44Z")

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Hey, Sua, can I… nevermind.

–Tim

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/13 "2001-07-19T09:10:26Z")

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“George W. Bastard”? Are you guys even TRYING to mock him anymore?

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**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/14 "2001-07-19T11:36:46Z")

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If you wanna show that rat-bastard fuckface who’s boss, do what I’m gonna do\* … REFUSE to stimulate the economy; send your “refund” check to the Democratic National Committee, as your down-payment on 2002 and 2004.

\*OK, technically, my damn surplus-reducer is going to the assholes at SallieMae before I even SEE it. But this is what I WOULD do, if I got my mitts on it.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/15 "2001-07-19T11:41:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> **I knew it wouldn’t filter to me, and sure enough by the time it came out, the bracket I was in was to remain untouched.**

Well, as I am extremely wealthy, MY check from the IRS will be for…{quick calculation}…$435,000.

I plan to purchase three new HumVees and convert the remainder to fifty-dollar bills, which I shall pile knee-deep in the rumpus room so that I may roll about in them nude with my Trophy Wife.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/16 "2001-07-19T11:53:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> I plan to purchase three new HumVees and convert the remainder to fifty-dollar bills, which I shall pile knee-deep in the rumpus room so that I may roll about in them nude with my Trophy Wife. \*\*

Now there’s a man who understands economic stimulation.

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**Author:** ![Traveler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc8723/32.png) [@Traveler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveler)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/17 "2001-07-19T12:36:40Z")

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[Stupid ECW Rant] Gore! Gore! Gore! [/Stupid ECW Rant]

We need to wipe out the DC crowd. I mean everyone: Demos, Reps, etc. and start fresh with everyday people. I doubt Gore would be doing any better or worse or whatever unless aliens come down to help us.

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**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/18 "2001-07-19T13:45:11Z")

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Can I be cast as Trophy Wife?

Or do you already have one?

What about Slutty Mistress?

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/19 "2001-07-19T13:56:03Z")

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Yeesh. The cut was only $50/pay, plus the $300. I can afford a Jerry Springer-brand slutty mistress, but that’s about it. Trophy wives are pretty much out of the question, unless their trophy is in money management.

Maybe if the stock market turns for good and I actually realize a capital gain ever again.

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks-so-much-george-w-bastard/72969/20 "2001-07-19T14:02:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Dr. Lao \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \*  
> > **Now excuse me, I must go out and stimulate the American economy.**
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> This sounds vaguely obscene. \*\*

What, you want unemployed hookers and strippers burdening the welfare rolls? They are part of the American economy too, dammit!

As god is my witness, so long as I have a $20 in my pocket, a stripper will have a place to sit!

Sua

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