# Thanks!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 1, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567 "2006-02-01T20:39:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/41 "2006-02-02T17:39:37Z")

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**cards** , I got a huge kick out of that one, too. 😃

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**Author:** ![jakeline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@jakeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jakeline)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/42 "2006-02-02T19:13:49Z")

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Ending an email with Thanks? Yeah, I can deal with that. What really chaps my hide is when someone sends me an email asking me to do something, then ends it with “Please advise.” Okay, my advise is that you ask someone else to do this. It’s gotten to the point that when someone end an email with “Please advise” even they’re actually asking for advise, I get pissy just as a reflex. I’m not sure how much more pressure the vein in my forhead can take!

Please advise.

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**Author:** ![Corii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Corii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/43 "2006-02-02T19:30:08Z")

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> [@jakeline](#):
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> Please advise.

Cut down on the caffeine.  
Thanks!

😃

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**Author:** ![dwc1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@dwc1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwc1970)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/44 "2006-02-02T19:43:02Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Followed by a fucking spreadsheet of what is only able to be reached by blowing off the client in order to reach the goal. Of course, blowing off the client will decrease overall stats, but what the hell? We were thanked!

You must work for the same company I work for.

> [@](#):
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> (A little long winded. Just wait till I hit the 1 year mark. I have a Pit thread to end all Pit threads for that. I’ve been taking notes for it.)

When will this be? I look forward to reading it.

> [@](#):
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> And does anyone else have that coworker that uses the “ghosted” smilie in Outlook? I mean in every Goddamned e-mail? I don’t know what’s worse.

What is a “ghosted” smilie (smiley)? Google returned nothing when I tried to look this up. 😕

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**Author:** ![jakeline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@jakeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jakeline)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/45 "2006-02-02T19:46:35Z")

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> [@Corii](#):
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> Cut down on the caffeine.

Sadly, this is how I am decaffeinated. Now you can see why I’ve cut out caffeine from my diet! Maybe I’ll start opening my email program only after having a good stiff drink.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/46 "2006-02-03T00:48:14Z")

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_pizzabrat_, from now on, whenever you get an email ending in an inappropriate “Thanks”, just reply with “You’re welcome.”

Couldn’t hurt, might help.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/47 "2006-02-03T00:56:28Z")

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Sorry; I meant **pizzabrat**.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/48 "2006-02-03T01:05:30Z")

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Aaaah, Corporate America. Fuck us all.

I, too, hate the Thanks! My visceral reactions to it have nothing to do with anyone other than the loathesome bitch I replaced, who, even though we were lateral in title, she was considered my superior. My supervisor, no less. I would have understood this for training purposes, but by the time I could do her job blindfolded and began to take on projects she couldn’t FATHOM doing, you’d have thought that would end. It didn’t. She was a backstabbing twat. Every email she ever sent to me ended with “Thanks,”. It didn’t actually MEAN “thank you.” It meant, “Fuck off.” Now I hate it. Even if it really does mean, “Thank you.” I swear, the way I react to it looks just like Alice in the Dilbert strip when she gets frustrated. x\<

In a corporate setting, if you mean, “Thank you” then say just that. Regards is cool, too. Thanks could also be construed as too informal.

Then again, I may not know what the fuck I’m talking about. I tend to do everything in my power to soften corporate communication while still remaining professional, and my asshole wonderful, shining examples of management bosses get on my case because I’m too curt. I can’t win.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/49 "2006-02-03T01:36:45Z")

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> [@Faruiza](#):
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> Then again, I may not know what the fuck I’m talking about. I tend to do everything in my power to soften corporate communication while still remaining professional, and my asshole wonderful, shining examples of management bosses get on my case because I’m too curt. I can’t win.

What, they get their feelings hurt if you don’t sign off your emails with “Thanks?”

Send them a flowery Blue Mountain card to make them feel better.

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**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/50 "2006-02-03T01:54:44Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> I usually sign it:
> 
> thx, lisa

While I have nothing against the poster **PunditLisa** , if I received a message with ‘thx’ in it, I’d wonder how the writer managed to confuse email correspondence with SMS. I \*hate \* ‘thx’, ‘u’ and that kind of stuff - especially in email, where there is just no excuse for not finding the time to put in the missing couple of letters.

It makes it look like the writer either  
a) couldn’t be bothered making that small extra effort because the person they’re emailing is utterly trivial to them, or  
b) doesn’t know how to spell the word and is trying to avoid it.

Admittedly, the latter mainly relates to people using ‘ur’ or ‘ure’ instead of ‘your/you’re’, but I’d still raise an eyebrow wondering what inspired ‘thx’ as substitution for such a simple word as ‘thanks’.

Of course, I sign all my casual work-related email (as opposed to the official stuff) with:

> [@](#):
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> Cheers,  
> -d.

So no doubt I’m irritating the hell out of someone else. (There’s probably someone saying to themselves when they read it, “Cheers? Cheers? Where’s the cheer in this hellhole of an office? Or does the writer think we’re in a pub downing beers? I bet that’s it - she’s off swilling alcohol… no wonder she’s cheery! And what’s with ‘-d’? Doesn’t want to type out her whole name? Don’t I deserve her whole name? I HATE THIS WOMAN!” )

So, y’know, you can’t win no matter what approach you take. 😃

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/51 "2006-02-03T03:34:31Z")

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This never bothered me until I started working with my current office manager. She ends EVERY email, no matter how short, with that. Here’s a typical example:

* * *

Asimovian,

Attorney X is having a problem with printing. Can you check it out? Thanks.  
Shelly

* * *

Attorney X already emailed me about the same issue. I’m working on it.  
-Asimovian

* * *

Asimovian,

Can you let me know the outcome? Thanks.  
Shelly

* * *

Not a problem.

* * *

Asimovian,

OK. Thanks.  
Shelly

:smack:

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/52 "2006-02-03T05:48:37Z")

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Like **ybeaf** (?), I worl for a large support organization and the least I can give pissed off bookstore management is a little courtesy.

I sign every E-mail with:

Regards,

Sam Xxxx  
Company  
Position  
Phone  
Fax

My E-mail address isn’t in there for obvious reasons…

I sign off on every SDMB posting with:

Sam

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**Author:** ![Feydeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Feydeau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feydeau)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/53 "2006-02-03T05:51:31Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> THANKS[size=1]D!I!C!K![/size]

Winner – Most Original Coding This Year.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/54 "2006-02-03T14:48:25Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> My E-mail address isn’t in there for obvious reasons…

Heh. A recent hire went ahead and included hers in the signature. Just dumb. I felt too sad for her to point it out.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/55 "2006-02-03T14:54:49Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> My E-mail address isn’t in there for obvious reasons…

We actually have a company standard template for signatures. Guess what’s included?

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/56 "2006-02-03T15:29:35Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Heh. A recent hire went ahead and included hers in the signature. Just dumb. I felt too sad for her to point it out.

I don’t think it’s dumb at all. For one, many email systems take the actual email in the From line and convert it to a display name, which if the recipient then wants to know what it really is, he has to right-click and go to Properties to find out.

If the email is forwarded or received in Plain Text, the “real” email address (from the forwarded email) is not even accessible anymore - only the Display Name can be seen. Plus, if someone wants to copy your entire sig line to add to their Contacts, they can copy your info in one step. They don’t have to copy the name/phone/co. lines, paste, and then go up to the From line and right-click, Properties, etc., copy, go back to the Contact entry again, paste.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/57 "2006-02-03T19:53:19Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> What, they get their feelings hurt if you don’t sign off your emails with “Thanks?”
> 
> Send them a flowery Blue Mountain card to make them feel better.

I have to laugh at this. See, most of the other women I work with who aren’t engineers do crap like that. They tend to dig glurge, too, so I guess I’m screwed, because my efforts to get everybody to like me just will NOT go that far.

Besides that, to answer your question, about their feelings, it does seem that way. I have no clue what I could do to walk the line between being professional and being bubbly, likeable and fun. I think there’s nothing wrong with me until someone calls me into their office to tell me that I’m not enough of one or the other, and I need to work on myself. WTF?! I may never figure it out.

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**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/58 "2006-02-03T20:03:05Z")

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I’m somewhat anal retentive about all my emails looking exactly the same, so all my business emails look exactly like this:

> [@](#):
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> Hi \<first name of recipient\>,
> 
> \<message content\>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> \<my full name\>  
> \<rest of signature, including job description, company name and contact numbers\>

I usually write them pretty formally too. Sometimes if I’m feeling particularly wild I’ll replace “Regards,” with “Thanks,” or “Thanks!”. But mostly not.

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/59 "2006-02-03T20:42:18Z")

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> [@Lissa](#):
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> I heard an interview last week on NPR with a woman who lived as a man as an experiment. She said that her research showed that men are more likely than women to send an e-mail with no salutatuion or closing. Her theory was that it has to with the different communication styles of men and women. Women tend to use more qualifiers, along with salutations and closings, whereas men are more simple and direct. Many don’t even sign e-mails.

I work with a nearly all-male litigation department in a decent-sized law firm, and no one signs or has an intro on the email. A simple “please see me when you get in” and “do you have this file in your office?” are the norm. Maybe it really is a guy thing.

> [@Bites When Provoked](#):
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> I hate ‘thx’, ‘u’ and that kind of stuff - especially in email, where there is just no excuse for not finding the time to put in the missing couple of letters.

I agree. The one exception to the no-signing thing was some dude who signed all his emails, “thx, steve.” Every email from him was like the shitty Family Circus entry on the comic page, just waiting to suck. You’d get to the end and want to look away, but you couldn’t. You were compelled to recognize and read his crappy little “thx, steve” just so you could mentally writhe in distaste. The secretaries would amuse themselves by trying to pronounce ‘thx’ and using it all day long. He lasted less than a year, poor soul.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanks/342567/60 "2006-02-03T21:08:57Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> \<snip\> never, ever puts anything in the subject line. \<snip\>  
> I’ve told him over and over, at the very least put something, anything in the subject line\<snip\>

If we get nothing else out of this thread, please, please try to convince your husband to use his subject lines. That is how other, organized people file emails. A succinct, descriptive subject line is worth its weight in gold in an office.

Put me in the camp of people who hate being thanked for statements, not requests. “Here is that information you requested. Thanks.” Thanks for what - the request? The work that YOU did? For not coming down the hallway and bludgeoning you senseless with your computer? Agh. And I don’t think much of “thx,” either.

I (would) like to end emails with “Yours as ever, featherlou.” Leave 'em wondering, I say. 😃

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