# Thanksgivukkah question **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252 "2013-10-03T03:50:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/1 "2013-10-03T03:50:48Z")
So, will the leftover turkey last 7 days after the first night? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/2 "2013-10-03T04:31:10Z")
Cooked turkey, if refrigerated, will last a lot longer than that. ---
**Author:** ![Dax-ion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Dax-ion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dax-ion)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/3 "2013-10-03T04:57:25Z")
The question should be posed "Is it right that the leftover turkey should last 7 days after the first night? " ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/4 "2013-10-03T07:41:41Z")
Well, it did when we cooked Fricassee, a 44 pound 18 month old tom turkey we raised. Mom and Dad cooked his brother Turkeyzilla, who was a dainty 40 pounds - they had to go to a friends restaurant and run him through a chain oven because they couldn’t fit him in their home oven. Where there is a will, there is a way 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/5 "2013-10-03T08:06:32Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > So, will the leftover turkey last 7 days after the first night? 😕 It will if you are a laid off government employee ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/6 "2013-10-03T10:30:44Z")
For the benefit of those who don’t understand what this thread is about: For the first time in a very long time - perhaps the first time ever - The Jewish holiday of Chanukka and the American holiday of Thanksgiving will overlap this year, with the first night of Chanukka falling on Thanksgiving Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/7 "2013-10-03T10:52:11Z")
And to extend- the miracle of Chanukah is that one nights worth of sanctified oil lasted eight days, long enough to process and sanctify more oil for temple lights. So… Will the turkey list 8 days? It’d be another miracle! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/8 "2013-10-03T11:45:44Z")
I think the gravy boat will remain full despite everyone using it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/9 "2013-10-03T11:51:00Z")
Does this mean there won’t be any oyster stuffing? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/10 "2013-10-03T11:54:48Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > It will if you are a laid off government employee Furloughed, not laid off – there’s still a possibility we could get called back to work, and a vanishingly small chance we might get retroactive back pay. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/11 "2013-10-03T12:56:06Z")
If the Jewish calendar is not modified, this won’t happen again for around 70,000 years. ASIDE: The Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar, based on the period from one new moon to the next (each month is a lunar cycle.) This falls short of the solar calendar by around 11 days each year, so a “leap month” is added on a regular cycle (similar to adding a leap day to the common calendar, see: [Why do we have leap years? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1511/why-do-we-have-leap-years) ) There is still a slow lag against the solar calendar, amounting to around 1 day per 250 years. For religious reasons, the Jewish calendar needs to be reasonably in sync with the solar year (some festivals celebrate harvests, Passover needs to be in the spring, etc), so it is most likely that the Jewish calendar will have to be reformed sometime in the next few thousand years. My family is planning on turkey and latkes. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/12 "2013-10-03T13:15:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Does this mean there won’t be any oyster stuffing? ☹ Nope, but on the bright side, the stuffing will be made with challah! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dax-ion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Dax-ion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dax-ion)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/13 "2013-10-03T15:33:19Z")
My mother calls Chanukah the “Festival of Shmaltz” best celebrated by frying the F out of everything. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/14 "2013-10-03T16:26:29Z")
> [@Keeve](#): > > For the benefit of those who don’t understand what this thread is about: > > For the first time in a very long time - perhaps the first time ever - The Jewish holiday of Chanukka and the American holiday of Thanksgiving will overlap this year, with the first night of Chanukka falling on Thanksgiving Thursday. Am I missing something, or doesn’t the [first night of Chanukah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanukah#Dates) in 2013 fall on Wednesday, November 27, the day before Thanksgiving? The first day of Chanukah will be Thanksgiving Day, but Jewish holidays start the night before. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/15 "2013-10-03T16:31:34Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > Am I missing something, or doesn’t the [first night of Chanukah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanukah#Dates) in 2013 fall on Wednesday, November 27, the day before Thanksgiving? The first day of Chanukah will be Thanksgiving Day, but Jewish holidays start the night before. You are correct. Many calendars label the “day” of the holiday as the first day, so it may say Thursday is the first “day” (which it is- holidays go evening-day). Often somewhere the calendar says “Jewish holidays start the night before” Some calendars list the holiday and say “starts at night” or says “begins at sundown” etc. Some calendars are really vague on the matter. You’d just have to know that it means to start it the night before. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/16 "2013-10-03T16:34:02Z")
Chanukah falls on Wednesday night, but, for those who are both observant Jewishly and eat an early afternoon Thanksgiving, it will still be the first day of Chanukah Thursday before nightfall. If, like my family, you eat Tday dinner at a normal dinner hour (after dark) it will be the second night of Chanukah. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/17 "2013-10-03T16:36:58Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > Chanukah falls on Wednesday night, but, for those who are both observant Jewishly and eat an early afternoon Thanksgiving, it will still be the first day of Chanukah Thursday before nightfall. If, like my family, you eat Tday dinner at a normal dinner hour (after dark) it will be the second night of Chanukah. That’s also true- so to sum up: If you’re eating T’giving dinner on the first day of Hanukkah, there’d be no Hanukkah candles at the table. If there are Hanukkah candles at the T’giving dinner, they will be 2nd night candles. How’s that? ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/18 "2013-10-03T17:03:32Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > Am I missing something, or doesn’t the [first night of Chanukah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanukah#Dates) in 2013 fall on Wednesday, November 27, the day before Thanksgiving? The first day of Chanukah will be Thanksgiving Day, but Jewish holidays start the night before. My bad. Thanks for the correction. _Ignorance fought!_ ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/19 "2013-10-03T17:46:09Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > It will if you are a laid off government employee If the government shutdown lasts until Thanksgiving it’s doubtful there will be a traditional Thanksgiving for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/20 "2013-10-03T20:05:04Z")
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