# Thanksgivukkah question **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252 "2013-10-03T03:50:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/21 "2013-10-03T21:04:22Z")
How will this affect Black Friday! ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/22 "2013-10-03T21:14:44Z")
> [@want2befree](#): > > How will this affect Black Friday! I imagine all the good sales will be over by sundown, so probably not much. šŸ˜ƒ Seriously, I know very little about the ins and outs of Jewish holidays, but afaik thereā€™s no prohibition against work or dietary restrictions for Hanukkah, so I canā€™t imagine this would affect Jewish shoppers or retail workers more than any other year. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/23 "2013-10-03T21:21:48Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > I imagine all the good sales will be over by sundown, so probably not much. šŸ˜ƒ > > Seriously, I know very little about the ins and outs of Jewish holidays, but afaik thereā€™s no prohibition against work or dietary restrictions for Hanukkah, so I canā€™t imagine this would affect Jewish shoppers or retail workers more than any other year. Bingo. What does mean is that we have buy most of our gifts full price, before Black Friday and holiday sales begin. ā˜¹ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/24 "2013-10-03T21:33:48Z")
The turkey tail can be used as a dreidel. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/25 "2013-10-03T22:05:25Z")
Of course, none of us have asked the $64M question, here: Will the latkes be made with sweet potatoes and served with cranberry sauce? Because I could convert for that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/26 "2013-10-04T02:03:23Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > \ it is most likely that the Jewish calendar will have to be reformed sometime in the next few thousand years. > > My family is planning on turkey and latkes. I canā€™t plan my dinners out that far in advance. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/27 "2013-10-04T02:11:36Z")
> [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](#): > > I canā€™t plan my dinners out that far in advance. You never planned anything with a Rabbi, did you? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/28 "2013-10-04T02:28:19Z")
Obviously this is THE year for deep fried turkey! ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/29 "2013-10-04T05:24:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Obviously this is THE year for deep fried turkey! Okay, that one had me looking for the ā€œlikeā€ button. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/30 "2013-10-04T19:07:37Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > If the Jewish calendar is not modified, this wonā€™t happen again for around 70,000 years. > > ASIDE: The Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar, based on the period from one new moon to the next (each month is a lunar cycle.) This falls short of the solar calendar by around 11 days each year, so a ā€œleap monthā€ is added on a regular cycle (similar to adding a leap day to the common calendar, see: [Why do we have leap years? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1511/why-do-we-have-leap-years) ) There is still a slow lag against the solar calendar, amounting to around 1 day per 250 years. For religious reasons, the Jewish calendar needs to be reasonably in sync with the solar year (some festivals celebrate harvests, Passover needs to be in the spring, etc), so it is most likely that the Jewish calendar will have to be reformed sometime in the next few thousand years. > > My family is planning on turkey and latkes. Where does the 70,000 years come from. It requires that the year start as early as possible, but the calendar ought to recycle every 19 years. Yes, I do know that some years start late because Rosh Hashonah is allowed to start only on certain days of the week, but Wednesday evening, as this year, is one of the favored days. Thanksgiving has to be as late as possible, but that happens every seventh year. So I really want to know where the 70,000 years is coming from. My DIL is not only planning turkey and latkes, but making cranberry-apple sauce to go with it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/31 "2013-10-04T19:15:43Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > So I really want to know where the 70,000 years is coming from. Probably calculated by one of those Rabbis concerned with the calendar. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/32 "2013-10-04T20:54:56Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > So, will the leftover turkey last 7 days after the first night? šŸ˜• What doesnā€™t get eaten the first night goes straight into the gumbo pot. I guarantee it wonā€™t last seven days before we snarf it all down. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/33 "2013-10-04T21:04:48Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > What doesnā€™t get eaten the first night goes straight into the gumbo pot. I guarantee it wonā€™t last seven days before we snarf it all down. If it did, then, I guess it would be a miracleā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/34 "2013-10-05T01:08:09Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > If the government shutdown lasts until Thanksgiving itā€™s doubtful there will be a traditional Thanksgiving for anyone. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/35 "2013-10-05T01:27:09Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > So, will the leftover turkey last 7 days after the first night? šŸ˜• When I read this part, I couldnā€™t help but think of Gordon Freeman in a Chicken-HEV Suit: ā€œIts late. Iā€™m cold and tired and I donā€™t have much time. The men with dogs from Perdue Farms seem to never sleep, but if I donā€™t write this down, no one will know. The rest are gone, but with some clever use of tools and good timing Iā€™ve sabotaged 5 of processors. I caught some metal when the last one went up, and I probably wonā€™t be alive when you read thisā€¦ā€ ā€œSirā€¦! Weā€™ve. Got. Hostilesā€¦!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/36 "2013-10-05T02:39:00Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You never planned anything with a Rabbi, did you? Not yet, but I have a few thousand years to go. It could happen. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/37 "2013-10-05T02:48:48Z")
> [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](#): > > Not yet, but I have a few thousand years to go. It could happen. So it may. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/38 "2013-10-05T13:47:01Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > What doesnā€™t get eaten the first night goes straight into the gumbo pot. I guarantee it wonā€™t last seven days before we snarf it all down. What, no turkey sandwiches? Or Turkey/Stuffing/Mashed Potato Casserole? All gumbo, all the time? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/39 "2013-10-05T20:06:56Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > What, no turkey sandwiches? Or Turkey/Stuffing/Mashed Potato Casserole? > All gumbo, all the time? Yeah, seems like ruining the turkey to me. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252/40 "2013-10-06T03:52:12Z")
Going to gumbo on day 2 seems like rushing it to me. Yeah, by the 6th day or so I can see gumbo happening. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thanksgivukkah-question/670252.md?page=1)