# Thankyou George W. Bush **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091 "2011-02-12T01:56:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/41 "2011-02-12T16:15:53Z")
Poor conservatives don’t know what to do. First, they had to wait to see what Obama did so they could take the opposite position, now they wait to see if the Egyptian revolution is positive so they can give credit to Bush, or negative so they can blame Obama. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/42 "2011-02-12T17:00:22Z")
So a war that adversely affected tens of millions was for the purposes of advancing a theory of government? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/43 "2011-02-12T17:16:57Z")
> [@sh1bu1](#): > > The sun comes up, the sun goes down. Explain that! it’s all because the tides come in and go out. Gravity fits in somehow but i don’t really understand gravity, so I’ll just ignore it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/44 "2011-02-12T19:21:36Z")
So it isn’t as windy in this thread as I thought it was? Hmf grmph. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/45 "2011-02-12T21:28:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I give credit to The Second Half Of The Second Amendment, because we all know without the right of individuals to bear arms it would be impossible to resist a tyrannical government. Thank God those Egyptians armed themselves and fought it out with the dictator’s army and emerged victorious! Oh wait, they didn’t need guns. Never mind. Nice way to ride through on a hobby horse that has absolutely no bearing on this thread whatsoever. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/46 "2011-02-12T21:31:39Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > I deliberately avoided GD, because I was well aware that I am not equiped to adequately back up my opinion. What I’ve said is simply how I feel. [Your incorrect use of the word “opinion” inspired another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=596888). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/47 "2011-02-12T22:07:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Easy for you, a Canadian, to say, as you don’t have to deal with the effects of his domestic policies. :rolleyes: True, but I’m not addressing his domestic policies which quite frankly don’t impress me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/48 "2011-02-12T22:16:01Z")
> [@wmfellows](#): > > What could possibly rationally make a connection with the prior US adminstration? Nothing in what I have seen on BBC etc in interviews with Tunisians and Egyptians shows any connection whatsoever to the Bush Administration’s idiotic decision to invade Iraq and the complex cock-up that followed. Nary a single person has mentioned Iraq. A few mentioned the wikileaks in interviews, but IRaq… > > So where’s the logic? Well a lot of people blame Carter for not supporting the Shah in 79. Can we all not agree thart prior US administrations were responsible for the strength of the uprising of the Iranian people ? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/49 "2011-02-12T22:17:04Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Ehhhh… I give the Tunisian and Egyptian peoples the credit for what’s happening today. I do not disagree. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/50 "2011-02-12T22:19:40Z")
With regard to the Iraq war. Millions of Kurds are grateful. They have been liberated !!! Do they not count ? ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/51 "2011-02-12T22:37:49Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > With regard to the Iraq war. > > Millions of Kurds are grateful. They have been liberated !!! > > Do they not count ? As far as I understand, the Iraqi government didn’t have any control over the Kurdish areas from well before the Iraq war, so arguably not. But that’s rather beside the point of the OP, eh? > [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Well a lot of people blame Carter for not supporting the Shah in 79. Can we all not agree thart prior US administrations were responsible for the strength of the uprising of the Iranian people ? ?? You mean the 2010 one? I dunno. But that doesn’t say anything about this. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/52 "2011-02-12T22:51:26Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > With regard to the Iraq war. > > Millions of Kurds are grateful. They have been liberated !!! > > Do they not count ? So, now we fought the Iraq War for the Kurds? Were these the same Kurdish tribes encouraged to rise up against the Hussain regime in the original Gulf War only to be abandoned to their fates? Try again. Sooner or later you’ll gibber out a rationalization that bears some vague association to reality. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/53 "2011-02-12T23:00:18Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Well a lot of people blame Carter for not supporting the Shah in 79. Can we all not agree thart prior US administrations were responsible for the strength of the uprising of the Iranian people ? The Shah was a tyrant whose notorious secret police, SAVAK, tortured and killed dissidents. I don’t care whose “side” he was on. American Presidents from Eisenhower through Carter (initially) were wrong _to_ support him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/54 "2011-02-12T23:24:49Z")
Democracy in Egypt. Big deal. I’m more impressed with how the Chinese government renounced communism and held open elections. In 2019. An event I am crediting with what Barack Obama is doing now. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/55 "2011-02-12T23:39:15Z")
Obama changes the future now, so it becomes history and can’t be changed back. That’s right, he’s that fucking good, bitches! ---
**Author:** ![Agnostic\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Agnostic\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agnostic_Pagan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/56 "2011-02-12T23:46:08Z")
Of course, G.W. Bush deserves credit. His policy of non-regulation of the financial sector led to the collapse of world economy and the ensuing rise in food and energy prices which led to the upheavals in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere. Similar to how you have to credit Hitler for the creation of the United Nations by exposing the weaknesses of the League of Nations, and also for the creation of the state of Israel in response to the atrocities of the Holocaust. Unintended consequences and all that, and probably not what they had in mind when they pursued their policies, but it is only fair to give them credit where credit is due. By the way, this is not an application of Godwin’s Law. I absolutely mean no comparison between Bush and Hitler beyond the fact that both sent in motion events that led to outcomes that were the complete antithesis of their motives. Hardly the only national leaders to have done so, and many more will as well. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/57 "2011-02-13T00:51:01Z")
What I cannot wait to see is how fast all the liberals praising Obama for the recent events in Egypt do a 180 and blame Bush if it turns out Egypt democratically elects a theologically-based government that makes Iran look like atheistic peace hippies. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/58 "2011-02-13T00:53:31Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > What I cannot wait to see is how fast all the liberals praising Obama for the recent events in Egypt do a 180 and blame Bush if it turns out Egypt democratically elects a theologically-based government that makes Iran look like atheistic peace hippies. In addition to erroneous uses of the word “opinion,” my other pet peeve in GD is people who argue bizarro-land scenarios in order to score cheap points. This thread is a double-jackpot! Granted, you’re scoring cheap points off Hypothetical FutureWorld. But even so, they’re really stupid cheap points, given that the liberals I’ve heard have been excoriating Obama for not taking a firmer, and earlier, position alongside the protestors and against Mubarak. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/59 "2011-02-13T01:42:31Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > What I cannot wait to see is how fast all the liberals praising Obama for the recent events in Egypt do a 180 and blame Bush if it turns out Egypt democratically elects a theologically-based government that makes Iran look like atheistic peace hippies. You would actually look _forward_ to Egypt turning into an oppressive theocracy, just to say “I told you so”? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thankyou-george-w-bush/571091/60 "2011-02-13T01:50:28Z")
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