# That '90s Show {Debut Jan 19,2023} **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [December 27, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173 "2022-12-27T17:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/41 "2023-01-21T00:39:04Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > And in fact, the whole “Kids find a keg of beer, need a tap to drink it” story was in the original show. This version was stupid in many ways. Liquor store gives them a keg, Girl threatens the owner to give her a tap, then they haul it up a water tower. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/42 "2023-01-21T02:40:51Z")
Until I saw **elfkin477** ’s post just now, I completely forgot that I was the OP! 😃 > [@Helena330](#): > > I got what I expected: a cute show. Nothing earth-shattering or deep, but cheerful mindless entertainment. I just finished watching the season, and I totally agree with this. I actually liked it more than I thought I would. 🙂 Red and Kitty are still awesome, as is Leo. I could have done without Fez or Bob. But I think they cast Leia well: the actress is believable as the daughter of Eric and Donna, and was mostly able to pull off the “endearingly earnest” thing that Topher Grace did a lot. I expected the kids to get on my nerves, but I wound up liking all of them well enough. FWIW, I’m 51: based on the ages mentioned during this show, I’m 14 years younger than Eric and 9 years older than Leia. I was able to smile about elements of both the ‘70s and ‘90s settings. All of the episodes are available on Netflix but they’ve only been out for a day, so just to be on the safe side I’ll include spoiler protection for this: I really enjoyed the guest appearance of Brian Austin Green in character as David Silver in the 90210 daydream…even though I think they overdid that conceit. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/43 "2023-01-21T03:13:16Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > then they haul it up a water tower. Yeah, that was the least believable part. By they time they got that up there, it would be pouring nothing but foam for _hours_. I’m still bitter about the time when the restaurant I worked for gave the employees a free keg for a staff party one time, and a couple of idiots _rolled_ the keg into the party. Sucking nothing but foam the whole damn night. 😡 ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/44 "2023-01-21T03:47:11Z")
I figured someone was going to fall off. > **[That ‘70s Show: Here's Every Character That Fell From The Water Tower (&...](https://screenrant.com/that-70s-show-every-character-that-fell-off-the-water-tower-how/)** > > Almost every male character fell off it at some point. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/45 "2023-01-21T19:45:03Z")
Just finished the finale and I hope this gets renewed. The kids are just similar to the old gang while being different enough to avoid invoking Generation Xerox. The adults (except Kelso & Jackie) did alot of character development offscreen, especially Red. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/46 "2023-01-21T20:11:08Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > That stupid laugh track, though. Ugh. They really did it with a live audience. What drugs that audience was on I can’t tell, but the exaggerated laughter was indeed jarring. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/47 "2023-01-27T11:25:36Z")
I caught a few episodes. My impression so far accords with what others have said in this thread: the adults are great, but I’m not (yet) interested in anything the kids are doing. I’ll keep watching to see if this changes. (If not, I’ll wait until some fan does a Phantom Edit-style reworking of the entire series so that it’s almost entirely Red, Kitty, and the old gang.) By the way, did anyone else catch the clever placement of Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith’s names in the opening credits? I haven’t seen that sort of thing done since the early seasons of _Cheers_. It was a way to ensure that both Ted Danson and Shelley Long got top billing. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/48 "2023-01-27T12:46:17Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > It was a way to ensure that both Ted Danson and Shelley Long got top billing. I didn’t see it, but Cheers (and the reason for doing it) crosses my mind every time I see the Top Right/Bottom Left placement of two names. Has anyone else noticed Ozzie’s watch? The first time I saw it, I thought it was an Apple Watch that maybe he accidentally left on and somehow it wasn’t caught. It’s always has a black with single white line. I don’t recall ever seeing a watch, or anything similar looking for that matter, in the 90’s. [![](https://i.imgur.com/HvTFw1C.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/HvTFw1C.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/49 "2023-01-27T13:41:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I didn’t see it, but Cheers (and the reason for doing it) crosses my mind every time I see the Top Right/Bottom Left placement of two names. I think the first use was in _The Towering Inferno_, with Paul Newman and Steve McQueen. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/50 "2023-01-27T15:10:27Z")
I finished the last handful of eps last night and I thought it was somewhere between meh and fine. I liked the kids and Red and Kitty are always the best. I actually thought it got better along the way and the last couple of eps were actually kind of touching. I wouldn’t mind seeing another season with this group though the romance angle at the end seemed a little tacked on. I did notice that Red had a cane at one point, but it seemed like he didn’t need it in other eps. Did they ever explain that? I liked Don Stark in That 70s Show but he didn’t look too good here. His timing seemed a little off and it looked like he had difficulty moving. I hope he’s OK. There were a couple scenes in Red and Kitty’s bedroom but the staging had the door to the viewer’s left but we all know the staging in That 70s Show has the [door on our right](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-zcZH7GaMU&ab_channel=RaccoonWarriorPrincess). Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/51 "2023-01-28T00:25:52Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I did notice that Red had a cane at one point, but it seemed like he didn’t need it in other eps. Did they ever explain that? It was because the neighbor ran him over with her bike, which was the closing of the previous episode. Kitty makes a joke about him still having tire marks somewhere. I’m almost done, and so far I’ve enjoyed it well enough. Like several shows I’ve watched recently, I thought the first/pilot episodes were weak, but it’s gotten better a few shows in. Part of my initial mehness for this show may be that it really is paced, written, filmed, etc. as a classic three camera sitcom. Live audience, laugh track, etc. At first that really was jarring, because the 30 minute comedies I’ve been watching lately (_Derry Girls_, _Ghosts_, _Ghosts_, and some others) are not setup in that old style. Once I settled in and accepted the genre, I’ve been properly entertained. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/52 "2023-01-28T01:19:11Z")
Was Topher really so busy that he couldn’t spend more than part of the first episode? Even Leo got two. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/53 "2023-01-28T01:36:27Z")
Topher is in his own sitcom on ABC, _Home Economics._ I don’t know if shooting schedules conflicted or if he just doesn’t want to be identified with Eric Foreman anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/54 "2023-01-30T00:46:02Z")
I binged it this weekend. I was expecting that all of the younger cast members were supposed to be the children of the original cast, so I spent some time trying to figure out who was the child of whom. But only a couple were. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/55 "2024-06-28T04:17:02Z")
I hadn’t even noticed that a second season was near, but 8 out of 16 episodes dropped yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/56 "2024-06-28T08:53:21Z")
We watched the first two last night, a nice surprise having them there. The second episode was really funny. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/57 "2024-06-28T10:50:45Z")
These kind of things would be better as a new thread “90s show season 2” with a link back to this one ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/58 "2024-06-28T12:06:07Z")
Except that bumping this thread notifies everyone that posted to it (depending on their settings). I learned that a new season of this show came out because of the notification I got that the thread is active again. If someone started a new thread, it might have been a few days before I happened to notice it. Same reason I bumped the old thread for The Bear. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/59 "2024-08-21T16:39:30Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I hadn’t even noticed that a second season was near, but 8 out of 16 episodes dropped yesterday. Bumping to note that the remaining eight episodes of the second season will be available on Netflix starting tomorrow (Thursday, August 22, 2024). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173/60 "2024-10-12T22:09:50Z")
They’re not alright. They’re not alright. > **[‘I Have Tough News.’ Kurtwood Smith Announces Netflix Has Canceled That ‘90s...](https://www.cinemablend.com/streaming-news/kurtwood-smith-announces-netflix-canceled-that-90s-show-funny-take-why-needs-land-elsewhere)** > > They don't want to say goodbye to Wisconsin yet. Goodbye, Wisconsin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-90s-show-debut-jan-19-2023/977173.md?page=2)