# That Annoying Old Man- What Exactly Is He Doing?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 17, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315 "2006-01-17T04:10:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/1 "2006-01-17T04:10:57Z")

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So there’s this old guy hanging around our place, playing this “knick-knack” game on damn near everything- my shoe, my knee, the door, whatever. He even went so far as play this knick-knack up to heaven.

What’s this guy’s game?

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**Author:** ![633squadron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ee59a6/32.png) [@633squadron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/633squadron)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/2 "2006-01-17T04:16:50Z")

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> [@inkleberry](#):
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> So there’s this old guy hanging around our place, playing this “knick-knack” game on damn near everything- my shoe, my knee, the door, whatever. He even went so far as play this knick-knack up to heaven.
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> What’s this guy’s game?

Darn good question! I thought he was playing “two”, but when I looked again he was playing “three”! Mayhap time for Jack Bauer to intervene? :eek:

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/3 "2006-01-17T04:29:23Z")

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I swear I saw him whacking someone’s paddy.

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**Author:** ![Susie\_Derkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Susie\_Derkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susie_Derkins)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/4 "2006-01-17T04:31:30Z")

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Don’t know what he’s doing, but he sure is good looking. He’d give a _dog_ a bone.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/5 "2006-01-17T04:35:10Z")

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> [@Susie Derkins](#):
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> Don’t know what he’s doing, but he sure is good looking. He’d give a _dog_ a bone.

So does that cackling hussy, Old Mother Hubbard. My neighborhood is really taking a dive.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/6 "2006-01-17T04:36:11Z")

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But seriously, this is driving me crazy. What is it to play knick-knack?

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**Author:** ![Susie\_Derkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Susie\_Derkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susie_Derkins)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/7 "2006-01-17T04:43:00Z")

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Dry-humping, maybe?

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**Author:** ![KesMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KesMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KesMan)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/8 "2006-01-17T04:52:35Z")

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> [@inkleberry](#):
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> But seriously, this is driving me crazy. What is it to play knick-knack?

well i know knick-knacks are like small ornaments or just general small things people accumalate… ie: i have a draw full of knick knacks or tat. paddywhack is an unedible part of a cow, so it ties in with ‘give the dog a bone’… and not that small piece of rubbery paddywhack. possibly.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/9 "2006-01-17T04:57:05Z")

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Damnit, it got moved. Someone very MODern sucks around here.

I wanna know what this is! Can’t sleep! Bugging me! Was a serious question!

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!

Is torture in my brain meats!

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/10 "2006-01-17T05:01:25Z")

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Lyrics and sound: [This Old Man](http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/oldman.htm)

Pete Seeger gave the song life in the US with his [1953 recording.](http://www.csufresno.edu/folklore/ballads/FSWB390C.html)

[This feisty discussion](http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=63833&messages=68&page=1) refs the song in England back to 1911, _maybe_ earlier. It may be derived from ‘Old Joe Padlock’.

I thought the old man’s name was Paddywhack, but there seems a wealth of speculation on what _that_ means.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/11 "2006-01-17T05:04:46Z")

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The OP wasn’t very clear, so I moved this to MPSIMS\>

Now that I see you are really asking a GQ, perhaps I’ll move it back.

**samclem** GQ moderator

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**Author:** ![KesMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KesMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KesMan)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/12 "2006-01-17T05:07:31Z")

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> [@inkleberry](#):
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> Damnit, it got moved. Someone very MODern sucks around here.
> 
> I wanna know what this is! Can’t sleep! Bugging me! Was a serious question!
> 
> Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!
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> Is torture in my brain meats!

im afraid its probably just rhyming with paddywhack and sounds like something being hit rhymically. sounds better than a whack whack paddywhack.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/13 "2006-01-17T05:07:51Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> The OP wasn’t very clear, so I moved this to MPSIMS\>
> 
> Now that I see you are really asking a GQ, perhaps I’ll move it back.
> 
> **samclem** GQ moderator

You neither suck, nor blow. 😃

And I am serious about this question.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/14 "2006-01-17T05:27:08Z")

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My advice: Give the dog a bone, and that old man will go rolling home.

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/15 "2006-01-17T05:36:04Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> My advice: Give the dog a bone, and that old man will go rolling home.

That, or just give 'im a good shove. You know how unsteady those knick-knacking old men are. One good push and he’ll be off like a bowling ball.  
:: resists the urge to speculate on the coefficient of rolling friction between an old man and the ground ::

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/16 "2006-01-17T08:16:19Z")

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> [@Spatial Rift 47](#):
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> That, or just give 'im a good shove. You know how unsteady those knick-knacking old men are. One good push and he’ll be off like a bowling ball.  
> :: resists the urge to speculate on the coefficient of rolling friction between an old man and the ground ::

The old man and the C, eh?

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/17 "2006-01-17T10:53:59Z")

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Now there’s a coincidence: I sang little case to sleep with this song a scant couple of hours ago, at his request.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/18 "2006-01-17T19:32:05Z")

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In kindergarden, I kinda disliked the old man. Even at that young age, I knew that “thumb” doesn’t rhyme with “one”.

But I remember now another song that _really_ worried me: “Shoo, fly, don’t bother me…”  
I could never figure out what a “shoe fly” was. My shoes never had any flies in 'em.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/19 "2006-01-17T19:39:58Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> But I remember now another song that _really_ worried me: “Shoo, fly, don’t bother me…”  
> I could never figure out what a “shoe fly” was. My shoes never had any flies in 'em.

My friend’s six-year-old thought “Feliz Navidad” was actually “Fleas On My Dog.” He couldn’t understand why it was a Christmas song and I was laughing too hard to explain it, so his mother fielded that one.

But the “knick-knack paddywhack” always kinda freaked me out. I assumed that This Old Man was getting ready to beat me about the posterior with my mother’s bookends. I figured he was upset because he was married to the old lady who swallowed the fly and _she_ obviously wasn’t doing so well. Why he’d take that out on _me_ was one of Life’s Great Mysteries.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-annoying-old-man-what-exactly-is-he-doing/340315/20 "2006-01-17T19:47:53Z")

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I had my paddy whacked once. In Amsterdam.

Cost me $43.

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