# That crazy Gwyneth Paltrow Skiing lawsuit **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 31, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949 "2023-03-31T19:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/21 "2023-04-01T20:07:11Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > When you’re taking money from people with candles that smell like your vagina, I’m not sure there is a difference. If there was a market out there for candles that smell like my balls, I’d be selling them. I don’t know what that says about the people who buy them, but I’m just an entrepreneur giving people what they want. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/22 "2023-04-01T20:09:06Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > If there was a market out there for candles that smell like my balls, I’d be selling them. I guess that’s what I’m getting at? Was there a market before Paltrow made them? Or did people buy them _because_ she made them? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/23 "2023-04-01T20:16:16Z")
I’m sure she saw people out there buying toenail clippings and farts in a jar from celebrities, and saw a market she could tap. People are weird, and sometimes you can make a lot of money off of that. Oh, and disclaimer: I don’t care about Paltrow one way or another. She was the least interesting performance in any of the MCU movies, and I can’t remember anything else she’s been in. But, she’s been quite successful in her career as both an actor and an entrepreneur, so from that angle, I have significant respect. ---
**Author:** ![SharltoCopley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sharltocopley/32/12309_2.png) [@SharltoCopley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SharltoCopley)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/24 "2023-04-01T20:22:01Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > but I’ve seen the clip, and I’d say yes, she was a bit star struck. Where can I see the clip? Which keywods should I use? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/25 "2023-04-01T20:24:14Z")
I saw it on Colbert, so I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/26 "2023-04-01T20:26:19Z")
It’s more than just those stupid candles. The “goop” idea started as a way of dispensing New Age bullshit, then morphed into a line of “beauty” products that have been criticized as snake oil, pseudo-scientific, and even potentially harmful. Paltrow might actually be a nice lady – she didn’t want anything more in this countersuit than to get this leacher off her back. But I couldn’t help noticing a materialistic aspect to her personal life, too. Asked once to describe her ideal man, she regurgitated the sort of maudlin drivel that a contestant in a beauty contest might have given. But according to actual evidence, her ideal partner must invariably – always – be rich and famous, and quite possibly an asshole, but that’s OK as long as he’s very rich. I once thought she was a very classy looking lady, but she appears to be about as shallow as a cookie sheet. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/27 "2023-04-01T20:27:28Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I don’t know what that says about the people who buy them, but I’m just an entrepreneur giving people what they want. “That’s how Dad did it, that’s how America does it…and it’s worked out pretty well so far.” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/28 "2023-04-01T20:37:54Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The “goop” idea started as a way of dispensing New Age bullshit, then morphed into a line of “beauty” products that have been criticized as snake oil, pseudo-scientific, and even potentially harmful. Eh, people are going to waste their money, may as well siphon some of it. Obviously her stuff is useless, I haven’t heard _harmful_, but that’s what fools have money for. > [@wolfpup](#): > > I once thought she was a very classy looking lady, but she appears to be about as shallow as a cookie sheet. She’s an actor, not a saint. I never had any illusions that any persona she projected, on or off screen, had anything to do with who she really was. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/29 "2023-04-01T21:23:51Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I haven’t heard _harmful_ I was going to try and find an article or two about the harm of Goop products, but [there are just so many](https://www.google.com/search?q=goop+harm). Scented candles aren’t my thing, but if that’s all she was selling, it wouldn’t be a big deal. The problem is woo, alternative medicine, and other health related products and advice which at the absolute best do nothing, but often are actively harmful, or may be used to replace real medical treatment which would be helpful. Obviously it’s not Paltrow’s fault that woo exists, but she is either deluded or a charlatan, in my opinion. As for ski safety, the number one rule is stay in control. It is an inherently dangerous activity, which may result in permanent injury even without any recklessness or negligence. I think everybody knows that, so trying to prove the opposite in court is going to be a tough sell. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/30 "2023-04-02T01:45:41Z")
I know this is shallow, but I find Gwyneth Paltrow incredibly plain looking, to the point that it’s off putting. What really gets me is that she has such a thin upper lip; it’s because of seeing her that I’ve identified this as a trait I don’t like. Nobody asked me, of course. (As for the trial, I only superficially noticed it. Most of the articles I saw discussed her very expensive clothing and jewelry. If there was compelling evidence that she was downhill from the other skier when they collided, I understand why the jury sided with her - it’s hard to imagine how she could have initiated the hit if she was below him while both were traveling down the mountain). ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/31 "2023-04-02T04:50:33Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > What really gets me is that she has such a thin upper lip; it’s because of seeing her that I’ve identified this as a trait I don’t like. Good grief, this is the reason actresses butcher their mouths to achieve fat lips. People loved thin lips on Cybill Shepherd. Nowadays it seems like every actress has fake, obnoxious fat lips thanks to ridiculous Hollywood standards. Her lips are the _only_ thing I can stand about her, because they’re her real lips. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/32 "2023-04-02T12:50:13Z")
Yeah, it’s not really her look that makes her kooky to me. It’s the woo product line, the wealth, and how she named her kids - all together that make me go, hmmm. But this whole case seems to be about scoring some money from a rich celebrity. If the ski collision was between two random people, there would have been curses or apologies and it probably would have ended there. But once he found out she was Hollywood, then this became a money-making opportunity, and that’s not right. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/33 "2023-04-02T13:05:04Z")
The guy suing her is a real piece of work. Claiming all those injuries while doing all that traveling and zip-lining. Being in charge of workers comp issues during my career, I’ve dealt with too many of those sort of people. I’m glad he lost and I respect her for going through all that when it was probably easier to just pay him off. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/34 "2023-04-02T13:13:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > The “goop” idea started as a way of dispensing New Age bullshit, then morphed into a line of “beauty” products that have been criticized as snake oil, pseudo-scientific, and even potentially harmful. > > Eh, people are going to waste their money, may as well siphon some of it. Obviously her stuff is useless, I haven’t heard _harmful_, but that’s what fools have money for. The second-degree burns cited in [this article](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/08/jennifer-gunter-gynaecologist-womens-health-bodies-myths-and-medicine) sound rather painful. A lot of what Paltrow sells is gateway stuff. Once people believe that totally unqualified celebrities are better at dispensing health advice than trained professionals, they’re more easily led into ignoring physicians in favor of, well, goop. Neglect can kill. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/35 "2023-04-02T13:37:44Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > If the ski collision was between two random people, there would have been curses or apologies and it probably would have ended there. Lawsuits from ski injuries between random normal people are a real thing. They don’t get a huge amount of press but if the injuries (and medical costs) are significant then these cases happen. Skiers more commonly sue the ski areas because they generally have deeper pockets, but skier vs skier lawsuits do happen. Some criminal cases have been filed as well. _bad joke mode_ Q: How does a snowboarder introduce themselves to a skier? A: “Sorry about that, dude.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/36 "2023-04-02T14:42:02Z")
Moderating: > [@Moriarty](#): > > I know this is shallow, but I find Gwyneth Paltrow incredibly plain looking, to the point that it’s off putting. What really gets me is that she has such a thin upper lip; it’s because of seeing her that I’ve identified this as a trait I don’t like. > > Nobody asked me, of course. > > (As for the trial, I only superficially noticed it. Most of the articles I saw discussed her very expensive clothing and jewelry. If there was compelling evidence that she was downhill from the other skier when they collided, I understand why the jury sided with her - it’s hard to imagine how she could have initiated the hit if she was below him while both were traveling down the mountain). Could we please stop the hijack about how Paltrow looks? These are not comments anyone would make about a man, even an actor, in a trial. We are trying to make this place a little more female-friendly, and while it’s okay to talk about how hot-or-not actors and actresses are in the context of their professional work (where it’s often relevant) we are trying to reduce those comments in other settings. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949/37 "2023-04-02T18:50:47Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > These are not comments anyone would make about a man, even an actor, in a trial. Mea Culpa Although Johnny Drop’s weird looks were the subject of his trial, too, and remain fodder for discussion to this day (he used to be a “pretty man” - I guess thousands of dollars of month in wine will do a hell of a thing to one’s appearance). > **[What Has Happened To Johnny Depp's Face?](https://icon.ink/articles/what-has-happened-to-johnny-depps-face/)** > > Recent photos of Johnny Depp circulating on Twitter reveal the actor's appearance has undergone some shocking changes. I won’t discuss Paltrow’s looks again, other than to say that her image personifies that of somebody who was born rich and can’t imagine anything else. Her version of attractive is based on wealth, alone, in my estimation. Meanwhile, some jurors have come out to confirm that this was an easy decision. If this guy didn’t have the facts on his side, I think it was a really dumb idea to sue a celebrity. They clearly have the money to hire lawyers and (in my opinion a more important key to winning a trial) expert witnesses that will bury anybody who doesn’t have an airtight case. This retired doctor was already rich, I’m sure (or else how would he be skiing at this hoity toity resort), so I don’t get why he made a money grab based on dubious evidence. > **[Paltrow trial: 'It took us less than 20 minutes to say Gwyneth was not at...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/04/01/entertainment/gwyneth-paltrow-juror/index.html)** > > A juror who served on the civil trial relating to a 2016 ski collision involving Gwyneth Paltrow said “it took us less than 20 minutes to say Gwyneth was not at fault.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-crazy-gwyneth-paltrow-skiing-lawsuit/981949.md?page=1)