# That guy in Katy, TX, who doesn't want to be a fucking laughingstock...

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**Created:** [December 7, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261 "2006-12-07T20:27:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/41 "2006-12-09T07:11:37Z")

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I think one of you Dopers that lives in the area should put a sign on the site that reads:

WE DON’T WANT A MOSQUE HERE BECAUSE WE’RE A BUNCH OF RACIST ASSHOLES

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/42 "2006-12-09T07:12:58Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
I think one of you Dopers that lives in the area should put a sign on the site that reads:

WE DON’T WANT A MOSQUE HERE BECAUSE WE’RE A BUNCH OF RACIST ASSHOLES  
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If I do it, I’ll post pix.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/43 "2006-12-09T09:21:59Z")

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[QUOTE=elmwood]  
The Web site with the counter: katyislamicassociation dot net.  
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Shouldn’t that be [katyislamic_haters_association.net](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/if6was9/hellfrozeover.jpg)? 😕

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/44 "2006-12-09T14:42:49Z")

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In related news, bigoted jerks in Bavaria go–heck, they catapult–off their rocker:

{Beginning of article}

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> MUNICH: Helga Schandl says she has nothing against Muslims. For three decades, she worked in Munich’s wholesale food market, where many of her colleagues were immigrants from Turkey. “I have experienced integration firsthand,” she said.
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> Yet Schandl, a 67-year-old Bavarian, is leading a fierce campaign to halt plans to build a mosque in a working- class district here.
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> “It is a provocation,” she said of the mosque, which would sit across a graceful square from her Roman Catholic church — its minarets an exotic counterpoint to the church’s neo- Baroque steeples. “The mosque doesn’t have anything to do with religion,” she said. “It is a power play.”

Huh? The mosque has nothing to do with religion? Wow. That’s a new one on me. I mean, I’ve heard Islam called a fake religion and even worse things, but I’ve never heard that one of their houses of worship had nothing to do with religion.

What does the church these bigots are “protecting” have to say about the issue? What does the town’s Christian mayor have to say?

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> St. Korbinian, and the mayor of Munich, Christian Ude, have welcomed the mosque, which would be the third, and most prominent, in Munich, the heartland of German Catholicism.
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> Both St. Korbinian and the neighboring Protestant church seem open to such a dialogue. They have steadfastly supported the mosque.

Oh, and this other quote in the article is quite entertaining:

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> “Bavarian life,” the petition declares, “is marked by the drinking of beer and the eating of pork. In Muslim faith, both are unclean and forbidden.”

I guess that rules out as good Germans all those nice people of other religions that prohibit consumption of alcohol or those nice people of religions that prohibit consumption of meat.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/45 "2006-12-09T16:11:54Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
Whaaat? Who doesn’t like _muslims_?  
[/QUOTE]  
[Sarah Silverman] They’re cute when they’re little. [/Sarah]

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**Author:** ![Hogwash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@Hogwash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogwash)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/46 "2006-12-09T16:26:52Z")

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Knee-jerk tit-for-tat xenophobia aside, I think the idea of pig racing is rather appealing.

I mean, you could make an evening of it - get all dressed up, have a few drinks, place a few bets. Furthermore, you can eat the losers, something unappetising to those at horse races, except maybe the French spectators.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/47 "2006-12-09T16:39:03Z")

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Seems to me that if the pig races do happen, the mosque should enter a few pigs themselves just to totally confuse the bigots!

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/48 "2006-12-09T16:55:45Z")

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Screw pig racing, greased pig catching is the way to go.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/49 "2006-12-09T17:17:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
I could handle that easier than I could handle this: [Touchdown Jesus (Gone), Monroe, Ohio](http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHMONjesus.html)  
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When my husband saw that he called it “touchdown Jesus”.

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**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/50 "2006-12-10T01:25:10Z")

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I must say, this kind of idiocy is not limited to Texas or even red states. Palos Heights, Illinois had a similar incident, with less excuse as the place had previously been a church, so traffic and parking would have just changed days.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/51 "2006-12-10T02:26:06Z")

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If I may play devil’s advocate for a moment; wouldn’t a mosque itself_be_ a target for terrorists? Surely there are some “good old red-blooded American boys” who equat all Muslims with terrorists and would feel justified in bombing a mosque.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/52 "2006-12-10T02:54:20Z")

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What a shout-out for diversity acceptance it \*would \*be - a beautiful Roman Catholic Church across from a beautiful old-world style mosque. If the good people would get their collective heads out of their asses enough!

I too am shocked to know mosques have nothing to do with religion, having been in a few in my day. What \*was \*all that chanting, I wonder?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/53 "2006-12-10T09:00:53Z")

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**Anaamika** ,

The good people do have their heads out of the other part. It 's the not good people stirring up stuff.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/54 "2006-12-10T14:22:58Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
If I may play devil’s advocate for a moment; wouldn’t a mosque itself_be_ a target for terrorists? Surely there are some “good old red-blooded American boys” who equat all Muslims with terrorists and would feel justified in bombing a mosque.  
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Because these idiots aren’t “terrorists”, they’re “good Americans”.

I did read the KIA website and could find nothing inappropriate in the reporter’s questions to the site owner. It seems to me that he’s het up because the reporter’s not buying his agenda, so he’s painting her as the one with the agenda.

Moron.

Robin

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/55 "2006-12-10T22:10:58Z")

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**Bump** , if memory serves it’s south of I=10 at or around Fry road.

I’ve read elsewhere that to develop the land like they’ve indicated are their plans, it’ll take not their existing 11 acres, but 25. Craig Baker’s adjacent family plot… 14 acres.  
If nothing else, it’ll be interesting to see who tries to court the NASPIG vote.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/56 "2006-12-31T06:25:02Z")

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Minor update… [Craig Baker still idiot, sun continues to rise in East](http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/30/mosque.pig.ap/index.html)  
The guy has started holding the pig races, and he’s also selling sausages during prayers. But, he says…

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> He insisted he wasn’t trying to offend anyone with the pigs, which are forbidden from the Muslim diet.
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> “I am just defending my rights and my property,” Baker said. “They totally disrespected me and my family.”

They offended him by asking him to move his cattle off the land they’d bought. And his way of defending himself is to hold pig races during prayers, although there’s no offense intended. This man is so stupid he’s lucky he hasn’t forgotten to breathe.

Of course, the best part is

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> “I don’t care if he races, roasts or slaughters pigs,” said Yousef Allam, a spokesman for the group.

You win again, Baker!

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/57 "2006-12-31T06:33:31Z")

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Am I the only one who finds this little nugget hillarious?

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> Resident Susan Canavespe said the pig racing wasn’t mean-spirited - “It’s just Texas-spirited.”

😃

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/58 "2006-12-31T07:08:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
I too am shocked to know mosques have nothing to do with religion, having been in a few in my day. What \*was \*all that chanting, I wonder?  
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That woman is a dolt, but she’s correct about that observation. A religious edifice is always a power play. The message St Patrick’s Cathedral was built to convey was not “Love God with your whole heart and soul and love your neighbor as yourself.” It was “We’re Here. We’re Irish. Get used to it.” (If you need proof of this, you can ask the man whose seat is there. He will admit that prayers in the cathedral are no more valuable than prayers in a clapboard church.) It’s about time they had a mosque that said that.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/59 "2006-12-31T07:11:33Z")

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> [@Karl Gauss](#):
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> Am I the only one who finds this little nugget hillarious?
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> > Resident Susan Canavespe said the pig racing wasn’t mean-spirited - “It’s just Texas-spirited.”

I wonder what point she thought she was making.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/60 "2006-12-31T08:06:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
I could handle that easier than I could handle this: [Touchdown Jesus (Gone), Monroe, Ohio](http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHMONjesus.html)  
[/QUOTE]

KAAAAAAAAAAHN!

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