# That guy in Katy, TX, who doesn't want to be a fucking laughingstock... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261 "2006-12-07T20:27:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/61 "2007-01-02T01:37:24Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] That woman is a dolt, but she’s correct about that observation. [/quote] Huh? What? > [@](#): > > A religious edifice is always a power play. Mighty interesting proposition there. What’s your proof? I see many religious edifices, ranging in size from mighty small to rather large. Seems to me they’re sized for the expected number of occupants, aka worshippers. > [@](#): > > The message St Patrick’s Cathedral was built to convey was not “Love God with your whole heart and soul and love your neighbor as yourself.” It was “We’re Here. We’re Irish. Get used to it.” Got any proof of that? I mean real proof, not just because you personally believe that to be the case. > [@](#): > > (If you need proof of this, you can ask the man whose seat is there. He will admit that prayers in the cathedral are no more valuable than prayers in a clapboard church.) It’s about time they had a mosque that said that. Silly of me. I’ve never heard the leader of a mosque say that a believer’s prayers were more important because of being uttered in a mosque instead of elsewhere. Seems to me that you’re confusing a couple of things. One is the idea of prayer with the idea of worshippers gathering to hear instruction. The other is your personal beliefs with proof. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/62 "2007-01-02T02:18:31Z")
[QUOTE=Lissa] When my husband saw that he called it “touchdown Jesus”. [/QUOTE] I think it looks more like the _“I’m melting! I’m melllll-ting!” Jesus_. ---
**Author:** ![Electrical\_Storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Electrical\_Storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electrical_Storm)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/63 "2007-01-02T02:22:13Z")
[QUOTE=sturmhauke] I think one of you Dopers that lives in the area should put a sign on the site that reads: WE DON’T WANT A MOSQUE HERE BECAUSE WE’RE A BUNCH OF RACIST ASSHOLES [/QUOTE] I don’t live in that exact area but I’m not more than a couple of hours away. Any Katy/Houston area Dopers available to put up said sign? I’ll volunteer to make up the sign and send it your way. On second thought, maybe we can pitch in and rent a billboard instead. 😃 So he went through with the pig races…to AVOID being a laughingstock? :rolleyes: Yeah. Mission accomplished. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/64 "2007-01-02T03:54:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Resident Susan Canavespe said the pig racing wasn’t mean-spirited - “It’s just Texas-spirited.” I saw that the other day while reading the story. What the hell? Is she saying Texans just hate Muslims and that’s the way things go now lets all go have a bar-b-que? ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/65 "2007-01-02T04:43:21Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] Huh? What? Mighty interesting proposition there. What’s your proof? I see many religious edifices, ranging in size from mighty small to rather large. Seems to me they’re sized for the expected number of occupants, aka worshippers. Got any proof of that? I mean real proof, not just because you personally believe that to be the case. Silly of me. I’ve never heard the leader of a mosque say that a believer’s prayers were more important because of being uttered in a mosque instead of elsewhere. Seems to me that you’re confusing a couple of things. One is the idea of prayer with the idea of worshippers gathering to hear instruction. The other is your personal beliefs with proof. [/QUOTE] You seem to be confused about the difference between faith and religion. St patricks is 330 feet high. The worshippers only occupy the lowest six feet. What do you think that means? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/66 "2007-01-02T04:47:35Z")
I wouldn’t want a mosque in my neighborhood either. It will attract a bad element… the FBI agents who will be spying on them. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Don26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@Don26](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don26)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/67 "2007-01-02T05:03:28Z")
They (the muslims) told him he would have to move. THAT is what pissed him off. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/68 "2007-01-02T05:12:39Z")
[QUOTE=Don26] They (the muslims) told him he would have to move. THAT is what pissed him off. [/QUOTE] No, they didn’t. > [@](#): > > The dispute began when the association asked Baker to remove his cattle from its newly bought land. and > [@](#): > > **Earlier this month, Baker conceded that the Muslims probably aren’t after his land** , but he said he had to go through with the pig races because “I would be like a total idiot if I didn’t. I’d be the laughingstock now because I’ve gone too far.” Bolding mine. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/69 "2007-01-02T09:35:41Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] You seem to be confused about the difference between faith and religion. St patricks is 330 feet high. The worshippers only occupy the lowest six feet. What do you think that means? [/QUOTE] It means some people like tall rooms. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/70 "2007-01-02T16:01:29Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] Screw pig racing, greased pig catching is the way to go. [/QUOTE] Ooh, can we combine that with the teeniest tiniest bikini contest? Every country has its bigots, idiots, assholes and racists. We just dump ours in places like Texas. When we first proposed the plan to dump them in Texas, Texas residents protested and claimed it would cause too much traffic and lower property values. It turns out that putting all the idiots in one place doesn’t isolate the problem it just created a critical mass of these people and they elected a governor who became president. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/71 "2007-01-02T16:47:29Z")
[QUOTE=Don26] They (the muslims) told him he would have to move. THAT is what pissed him off. [/QUOTE] Have you ever read anything before comment on it? ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/72 "2007-01-02T17:37:19Z")
[QUOTE=col\_10022] Ooh, can we combine that with the teeniest tiniest bikini contest? Every country has its bigots, idiots, assholes and racists. We just dump ours in places like Texas. When we first proposed the plan to dump them in Texas, Texas residents protested and claimed it would cause too much traffic and lower property values. It turns out that putting all the idiots in one place doesn’t isolate the problem it just created a critical mass of these people and they elected a governor who became president. [/QUOTE] We shipped them off to another country, that seemed to work. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/73 "2007-01-02T19:03:43Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Have you ever read anything before comment on it? [/QUOTE] **Don26** is just the latest brain-dead knee-jerk right-wing apologist to invade the board. He’s one of those types who’s so stupid he will find no defenders even among his ideological allies, like **magellan01**. With any luck he’ll get bored of having his steaming ignorance handed back to him and leave us in peace, though **magellan01** is still here so there’s no guarantee. Anyway, best advice is just to disregard his posts, and not encourage him overmuch. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/74 "2007-01-02T23:09:52Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] It means some people like tall rooms. [/QUOTE] I think it means, “Look, our deity is so powerful he brings us the prosperity to build extravagantly large houses of worship.” It’s not wrong, per se, and some large houses of worship can be quite beautiful, but they’re not really essential to faith either. ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/75 "2007-01-03T00:28:22Z")
I agree with the pitting, but I can’t help wondering what the SDMB reaction would be if the JWs wanted to open a Kingdom Hall there, and the locals objected. Would it be pitted? I ask because I was once involved in exactly that. I joined my fellow residents in fighting a redevelopment application that the JWs had lodged with the local council to turn an old warehouse into a Kingdom Hall. We cited noise, parking, and other concerns, but I must admit to a little bias on all our parts. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/76 "2007-01-03T00:34:27Z")
[QUOTE=TheLoadedDog] I ask because I was once involved in exactly that. I joined my fellow residents in fighting a redevelopment application that the JWs had lodged with the local council to turn an old warehouse into a Kingdom Hall. We cited noise, parking, and other concerns, but I must admit to a little bias on all our parts. [/QUOTE] Can’t you put up a no solicitations sign? They do pay attention to them, right? I wouldn’t know, I think they knocked on my door only twice in my life (used to live in a really rural area). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/77 "2007-01-03T01:13:46Z")
[QUOTE=sturmhauke] I think it means, “Look, our deity is so powerful he brings us the prosperity to build extravagantly large houses of worship.” It’s not wrong, per se, and some large houses of worship can be quite beautiful, but they’re not really essential to faith either. [/QUOTE] It certainly doesn’t mean that the only thing religion is about is power. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/78 "2007-01-03T01:15:30Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] It certainly doesn’t mean that the only thing religion is about is power. [/QUOTE] Or that the only reason for it is that “some people like tall rooms”? ---
**Author:** ![Electrical\_Storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Electrical\_Storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electrical_Storm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/79 "2007-01-03T13:53:43Z")
[QUOTE=clayton\_e] I saw that the other day while reading the story. What the hell? Is she saying Texans just hate Muslims and that’s the way things go now lets all go have a bar-b-que? [/QUOTE] I’m guessing she had to come up with a good excuse rather quickly, and that was her best shot at it. In doing so she just lobbed an insult at the non-mouth breathing Texans. Yes, we \*do \* exist. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261/80 "2007-01-03T16:48:20Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] Or that the only reason for it is that “some people like tall rooms”? [/QUOTE] Where did I say that was the only reason? On the other hand, another poster _did_ assert that the only reason for large religious edifices is power. Usually, I’m happy to assist people with finding definitions for the big words; however, I wasn’t aware that _only_ qualified as a big word. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-guy-in-katy-tx-who-doesnt-want-to-be-a-fucking-laughingstock/383261.md?page=5)