# That horrible disgusting Abanian Dwarf is gonna be made a saint **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085 "2016-03-15T17:17:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/21 "2016-03-15T18:18:02Z")
I thought this was going to be about Mini-Me. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/22 "2016-03-15T18:21:23Z")
IIRC Penn an Tellers show Bullshit ripped her a new one a few years back. How factually correct that episode might or might not be is another issue. I know they are no fan of religion and can kinda be dicks at times, but I suspect if they had something to bitch about there probably was something to bitch about. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/23 "2016-03-15T18:25:06Z")
I will un-pittishly agree with prior statements that JP2’s abbreviation of the canonization process creates serious pitfalls. Wojtyla and Ratzinger both felt it very important to elevate many people to sainthood from very many countries and especially those who toed the institutional line. JP2’s own fast-track canonization was conveniently used to piggyback John XXIII’s which had sort of stagnated because he was a favorite of liberals, so yes, it is a highly political process… ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/24 "2016-03-15T18:26:15Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Curious to know what being Albanian has to do with it. Albania! Albania! You border on the Adriatic. Your land is mostly mountainous And your chief export is chrome. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/25 "2016-03-15T18:26:20Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I thought this was going to be about Mini-Me. And I was wondering what Hervé Villechaize had done to piss someone off. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/26 "2016-03-15T18:29:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The Church doesn’t “reward” anyone with sainthood. _God_ does that. The Church merely recognizes that which has already been found to be true. But, the Church **can’t** make that finding in Mother Theresa’s case! [It’s too late!](http://www.theonion.com/article/mother-teresa-sent-to-hell-in-wacky-afterlife-mix--973) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/27 "2016-03-15T18:30:11Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Curious to know what being Albanian has to do with it. [Something.](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Support_of_Albanian_nationalism) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/28 "2016-03-15T19:02:35Z")
Is most wonderful news for great country Albania, and all peoples who reside inside her. Is now most honorable country and no longer 2nd place to Kazakhstan! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/29 "2016-03-15T19:24:11Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Something.](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Support_of_Albanian_nationalism) Unfortunately, that article is full of those bits that brings down the resource. Anyone who comes in thinking that Teresa is a saint will see an article biased towards hating her, rather than just an objective look at her issues. It’s one of those times when RationalWiki prefers to preach to the choir. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/30 "2016-03-15T19:32:54Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > And I was wondering what Hervé Villechaize had done to piss someone off. Something about a plane. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/31 "2016-03-15T19:35:44Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It’s one of those times when RationalWiki prefers to preach to the choir. In other words, all the time. Rationalwiki simply sucks. It’s like a better proofread Conservipedia. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/32 "2016-03-15T19:45:58Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > My understanding and I’m very much open to correction is that she had no problems accepting donations from ideologically troubling people and she believed very strongly in the idea that suffering glorifies god and the people in her care received substandard care as a result. Adding to that, her private writings have revealed that she had lost her faith decades before she died. So she was making other people suffer as a sacrifice to a God she wasn’t sure existed. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/33 "2016-03-15T19:58:08Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Unfortunately, that article is full of those bits that brings down the resource. Anyone who comes in thinking that Teresa is a saint will see an article biased towards hating her, rather than just an objective look at her issues. So, perfect cite for a Pit thread, right? How 'bout [this one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa#Questionable_relationships)? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/34 "2016-03-15T20:00:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Is most wonderful news for great country Albania, and all peoples who reside inside her. Is now most honorable country and no longer 2nd place to Kazakhstan! Does that mean Mepos has moved into second place? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/35 "2016-03-15T20:04:16Z")
> [@manila](#): > > I want serious replies from believers n non believers not just a fuckfest. > [@](#): > > Fuck fuck fuck. Mother mother fuck. Mother mother fuck fuck. Mother fuck. Mother fuck. Noise. Noise. Noise. -Saint Jay [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/w5iCKMkYKgs/hqdefault.jpg "jay and silent bob - mother-mother fuck (now with lyrics)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5iCKMkYKgs) ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/36 "2016-03-15T20:04:42Z")
Her teachings in India “be fruitful and multiply” were really not at all what the country needed. Really, that particular part of Catholic doctrine (don’t use any birth control but the rhythm method) needs to go away, pronto. Add me to the list of people who don’t like her. However, the Catholic Church literally cannot go lower in my estimation, so nice try, but fuggedaboutit. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/37 "2016-03-15T20:13:14Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > In other words, all the time. > > Rationalwiki simply sucks. It’s like a better proofread Conservipedia. I dunno about the proofreading. It’s more like Conservapedia without the stupid. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/38 "2016-03-15T20:17:51Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Unfortunately, that article is full of those bits that brings down the resource. Anyone who comes in thinking that Teresa is a saint will see an article biased towards hating her, rather than just an objective look at her issues. > > It’s one of those times when RationalWiki prefers to preach to the choir. However, note that the article **begins** [this way](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa): > [@](#): > > **Mother Teresa** (real name: **Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu** ), was an Albanian nun who, depending on your level of cynicism, is one of the following: > > 1. The most recent example of a saintly person, > 2. The greatest con artist, sham charity embezzler, and sadist the world has seen in the last 50 years, or > 3. A deeply misguided person who put the perceived spiritual needs of those she served over their real, tangible physical needs, or > 4. A very real, very human combination of some or all of the above. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/39 "2016-03-15T20:21:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I dunno about the proofreading. It’s more like Conservapedia without the stupid. No–it’s just about as stupid. And biased. And useless. But it _is_ better spell-checked. ---
**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085/40 "2016-03-15T20:28:02Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Huh? They canonized him not quite 2 years ago. Mea culpa! I guess I didn’t get that issue of the monthly church bulletin. Mea culpa #2: 2(not 1 as I indicated) is the number of miracles required to add to the canonization resume. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-horrible-disgusting-abanian-dwarf-is-gonna-be-made-a-saint/749085.md?page=3)