# That National Guard commercial at the movie theaters.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 20, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765 "2010-02-20T14:39:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/1 "2010-02-20T14:39:53Z")

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[Vid here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbfPj00pTNY).

Is anybody else slightly creeped out by the ad? Are we supposed to look like the good guys in this commercial?

Why on earth do they got the music form “The Omen” playing in the background? Seriously, I feel like the spawn of Satan is going to pop out at any moment and bring down a reign of fire on the entire planet.

I’m not anti troops or anything, I just find their choice of music slightly amusing.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/2 "2010-02-20T17:01:25Z")

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The National Guard commercials are always amusing to this Airman. I especially remember one that for some reason included a NASCAR race. Join the Guard! Become an awesome racecar driver? What? 😃

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/3 "2010-02-20T17:24:05Z")

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That is some intense propaganda. It’s scary how much this country worships the military.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/4 "2010-02-20T17:29:40Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That is some intense propaganda. It’s scary how much this country worships the military.

Dunno if I’d say the country worships the military. I especially didn’t get that idea when I was stationed in California. 😃

Really, all this commercial really indicates is that the National Guard hires some slick advertising people

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/5 "2010-02-20T17:30:48Z")

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God, how I hate that commercial. Every time it appears, I think, ‘oh no, here we go again’. It is _endless_.

And if there are words buried in that ‘song’, I sure can’t make them out.

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**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/6 "2010-02-20T17:36:13Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> The National Guard commercials are always amusing to this Airman. I especially remember one that for some reason included a NASCAR race. Join the Guard! Become an awesome racecar driver? What? 😃

I hear you, when I lived in a small town in TN, it was always hilarious to look around the theater and look at the rednecks in the crowd watching this commercial and getting a kick out of it. It was like porn for them.

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**Author:** ![UncaStuart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncastuart/32/404_2.png) [@UncaStuart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncaStuart)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/7 "2010-02-20T17:37:30Z")

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The first time we saw the commercial was also the first time we saw Avatar. It was a WTF moment as we thought, “you do realize that the highly trained, camo-wearing, high-tech soldiers in the following movie are the _bad guys_?!”

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/8 "2010-02-20T17:40:26Z")

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> [@UncaStuart](#):
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> The first time we saw the commercial was also the first time we saw Avatar. It was a WTF moment as we thought, “you do realize that the highly trained, camo-wearing, high-tech soldiers in the following movie are the _bad guys_?!”

To be fair, the movie itself makes the distinction that the camo-wearing dudes are not soldiers at all but hired mercenaries. So that’s totally different! 😃

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/9 "2010-02-20T17:41:10Z")

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They played it right before _Avatar_, a movie where the military are the bad guys and you’re supposed to cheer for them being blowed up real good at the end. That was kind of funny.

EDIT: Darn you, UncaStuart! Darn you all to heck!

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/10 "2010-02-20T23:21:56Z")

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I find the music stirring. Like the best of Orff.

But I like that sort of thing, a lot.

Tetsuo’s [Requiem](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vggan7xBRoE) ([is long](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phUUjGFheo&feature=related))

[“Canta per me”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9pfSx6AjOE) is actually used to excess in the series _Noir_–but I find it affecting.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/11 "2010-02-20T23:27:06Z")

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I would have linked to the “Salva Nos” video, but it has massive spoilers, boo.

Wait, try [this one,](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4HxexmgwKQ&feature=related) even though it’s rocked up a bit.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/12 "2010-02-21T00:39:51Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That is some intense propaganda. It’s scary how much this country worships the military.

:rolleyes:

Looks like you’re the one that’s bought into some intense propoganda.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/13 "2010-02-21T00:59:41Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> Looks like you’re the one that’s bought into some intense propoganda.

Right, because I go 5 seconds without seeing a movie, commercial, bumper sticker, billboard, facebook post, or tshirt glorifying war and/or “the troops”, and it’s not like we don’t have by far the largest military budget in the world, and it’s not like you can walk past someone in uniform without someone else stopping them to say “thank you” in a reverential tone, and it’s not like I haven’t personally been on an airplane where soldiers were applauded for no reason other than being soliders-- all this despite the fact that we haven’t been at war for 65 years.

And really, that barely scratches the surface of American military worship. Don’t kid yourself buddy.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/14 "2010-02-21T01:42:46Z")

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I just profiled you all as military propagandists… that’s how far this propaganda war goes down the rabbit hole. Trust noone.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/15 "2010-02-21T02:15:20Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> all this despite the fact that we haven’t been at war for 65 years.

Minor nitpick, we’ve been at war for something like the last 9 years or so, if you only count the big stuff.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/16 "2010-02-21T02:37:40Z")

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I’m sick of that commercial, too. Especially because I see a lot of movies.

I want to know what 2LT was put through music school so he could pretend to be Carl Orff. That shit would sound a lot better if it were in Latin, because the English lyrics (those which are comprehensible) are really, really corny.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/17 "2010-02-21T03:24:09Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Right, because I go 5 seconds without seeing a movie, commercial, bumper sticker, billboard, facebook post, or tshirt glorifying war and/or “the troops”, and it’s not like we don’t have by far the largest military budget in the world, and it’s not like you can walk past someone in uniform without someone else stopping them to say “thank you” in a reverential tone, and it’s not like I haven’t personally been on an airplane where soldiers were applauded for no reason other than being soliders-- all this despite the fact that we haven’t been at war for 65 years.
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> And really, that barely scratches the surface of American military worship. Don’t kid yourself buddy.

I am not the one kidding myself. If you lack the simple gratitude that others have, that’s your failing, not theirs. Quit trying to turn your personal failings into a virtue.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/18 "2010-02-21T06:36:22Z")

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I kinda miss this one that used to play in theaters: [“Citizen Soldier.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgV6VUinDEA) I like it. Sure beats the Kid Rock one.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/19 "2010-02-21T07:44:24Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I am not the one kidding myself. If you lack the simple gratitude that others have, that’s your failing, not theirs. Quit trying to turn your personal failings into a virtue.

You know where you can put your insults.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-national-guard-commercial-at-the-movie-theaters/529765/20 "2010-02-21T07:56:18Z")

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[Moderating]

**RikWriter** , **Cisco** , this is not the right forum for a debate about U.S. foreign policy. And personal remarks do not belong here either.

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