# That Stormy Daniels interview was a bust **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183 "2018-03-26T01:48:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/221 "2018-03-26T23:24:40Z")
And now I fear I must leave your august company for a while as life beckons. I’m sure there’ll be plenty to refute upon my return. I can hardly wait. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/222 "2018-03-26T23:25:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The difference is that millions of people weren’t attempting to adopt Sinatra’s mob-esque lifestyle, whereas the criminality and misogyny of music by the likes of Jay-Z have been promoted and championed by an entire ideological movement that also seeks to elevate their purveyors to heroic levels. > > In other words, Sinatra was just a damn good singer who had mob connections. People like Jay-Z emblemize and promote gangster-esue lifestyles to millions, resulting in increased crime, mistreatment of women, and ways of talking and behaving that are guaranteed to result in lives spent in poverty and going nowhere. Sinatra and Jay-Z aren’t remotely the same and the suggestion they are is laughable. See, now, I’m no expert, but I think you’re confusing cause and effect. Or put another way, I don’t think for one second that anybody joins a gang because of a _song_. (If anybody pursues any career due to Jay-Z, it’d be trying to be a _rapper_.) Now, full disclosure, I don’t like rap either. I’m not into the twerking or whatever. But trying to paint that as the end of civilization is kind of hysterical, and not in the funny way. It’s panic. (Specifically the fear of Scary Black Men.) When I don’t want to hear rap I change the channel and it completely stops effecting me. When I don’t want to hear about our idiot president attacking our trade agreements I can change the channel…but it still effects my 401k. Guess which I think is a bigger problem. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/223 "2018-03-26T23:28:20Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > … > And by the way, it continues to be completely moronic to claim that the people who didn’t vote for Trump are the ones responsible for him getting elected. … I think the Trump supporter line on this is “You _made_ us vote for him”. You know, personal responsibility bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/224 "2018-03-26T23:29:09Z")
Jesus Christ. Trump has dug to bring racists, criminals and misogynists out from under their rocks. Since he is one of them, they now have a voice in national policy. Jay-z will be gone as quickly as he came. Trump will do great damage to our county. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/225 "2018-03-26T23:34:49Z")
They made their bed, they’re gonna have to lie in it. I would love to say “I told you so”, but they won’t listen. ETA I am talking about Trump voters. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/226 "2018-03-26T23:35:14Z")
He has rarely, if EVER, responded when people point out the shit that went on in the past. All the times people have mentioned that drunkeness, substance abuse, prostitution, adultery, violence, etc – complete with cites. None of it matters. He either hand waves it away or ignores it completely. And he never, _ever_, provides cites of his own. (And still no comment on our own First Lady having done porn) He’s vile and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/227 "2018-03-26T23:40:50Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > They made their bed, they’re gonna have to lie in it. > I would love to say “I told you so”, but they won’t listen. > > ETA I am talking about Trump voters. The real kick in the crotch is that the rest of us Americans have to lie in it _too_. The fact that they wet that bed and are telling us _we_ did it doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/228 "2018-03-26T23:41:44Z")
(yeah, this is from page one, but not addressed to my liking) > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It gives him the opportunity to complement their looks and gauge their reaction without having to just blatantly say, Hey, you’re really hot. **It also provides him the veneer of being a loving father**. I think most men would be flattered if an attractive older woman were to say something like “You’re so handsome, you remind me of my son.” People have enough of an ego to take things like that as a compliment while still being aware enough of their own individuality not to think Trump or the woman in that scenario were looking to bang a surrogate of their offspring. I think my bolded part should be more like “It also presents him with a Vermeer of peeing with a gloving father”. FTFY. **Starving Artist** , you hustler, you. So, if you were a single father who had a daughter, say, in her mid-20’s, and wanted to get acquainted with a woman, say, in her mid-20’s, you would actually, then, try to _compl_i_ment her looks by actually saying to her that she reminded you of your daughter_? You’re fucking kidding me, right? If you are not, then this unequivocally makes you, **Starving Artist** , a truly creepy person. Do you understand? If you think there is a woman out there who would _somehow_ be flattered by such a DUH skeevy pick-up line, then: ‘your welcome’, then, for the long overdue wake up call. Heh - if I was her dad and, by fluke, overheard you, I’d… …er, uh I think I’ll hold off before I get a warning. And for the love of motherfucking Totie Fields… **For once and for fucking all** Before I get to another discarded Starving Artist cyst, below, I’d just like to point out that in the two years I’ve been here, I cannot believe how much of a broken fucking record you are, **SA**. I have never seen anyone come even _close_ to regurgitating the _exact_ same, lame, alt-right drivel that you do. Don’t you get - I dunno - bored, constantly re-churning it out? And to think there’s posters here who’ve had to contend with your toxic palaver for _five or six times_ the amount of time that I have. Gross. Alors - you are no longer allowed, **Starving Artist** , to foist the following, kajillion-times-repeated alt-right talking point: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Either dial back the hatred and villainization and the never-ending orgy of whingement over everything in life that isn’t perfect, or get even more Trump or Trump-esqe governance in the future. _I know you know_, **SA** , that even if us whiney libruls rolled out a red carpet for President Body-Gout every single day in the media and whatnot, that we would _still_ get just as much “Trump or Trump-esqe governance in the future”. Continuing using this uselessness will only reflect on your already weak contributions to this board. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/229 "2018-03-26T23:43:26Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I think the Trump supporter line on this is “You _made_ us vote for him”. > You know, personal responsibility bullshit. Yep “Not our fault”, but that’s Act II. Act I was - “But, but, but Hillary would have been worse”. It’s a very short play. Rewind as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/230 "2018-03-26T23:48:09Z")
Since when does Jay-Z have an outsized voice in how this country is run, anyway? What position does he hold? I couldn’t tell you one view that he holds, and even if I could, his views hold no obligation at all. Unless, of course, you mean that he shouldn’t have any voice at all? That the Wrong Sort of People shouldn’t be allowed to vote like everyone else does? In that case, I’d like you to define very precisely who the Wrong Sort of People are. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/231 "2018-03-27T00:24:21Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Well, not anime contacts per se, but contacts that make her irises brighter and pupils larger. The mirrored ones really don’t fit the image she projects. But it could be medication, it could be nerves, it could be genetically large irises. It doesn’t HAVE to be drugs. Unless your assumption is that she is stupid enough to do a Sixty Minutes interview strung out - and there has been nothing to date that indicates that she’d be likely to do that. Whether or not she was on drugs during the interview she didn’t come across as impaired in any way. She seemed stone cold sober. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/232 "2018-03-27T00:43:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Because ACTUAL news involves journalism, which doesn’t exist on television. Issues with PBS Newshour? > [@Chronos](#): > > Yup. I have no idea how good she, personally, is at foreign policy, but she’s demonstrated an ability to find and hire competent professionals, and she’s difficult to intimidate. The presence of either of those qualities would make her far more qualified than Trump. - tons ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/233 "2018-03-27T00:58:52Z")
I don’t see the point in arguing with folks like **Starving Artist**. There’s plenty of them in my neighborhood, who are reasonably good people, so I just change the subject. It’s sad, to me, that anyone can believe the past was a better place than today. I’m 42. I have two children, one almost 4 and one 2. While every generation has its challenges, I sure as shit am happy they are growing up now, and not in my youth or in the youth of some idealized past. But, for some people (usually older white men), their reality truly is that the past was better. I find it sad and hope to hell I don’t become one of those people when I get older. But what’s the use in arguing or pointing and laughing? I know it’s the Pit and all, but, still. ---
**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/234 "2018-03-27T01:06:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > but I don’t like like the fact that it’s become literally impossible to raise kids in this country today with even a shred of wholesomeness, and skanks like those two are a large part of the reason why. > > . I’d be more worried about kids interacting with assholes that defend child molesters than them listening to shitty pop songs. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/235 "2018-03-27T01:21:07Z")
> [@Mithras](#): > > I’d be more worried about kids interacting with assholes that defend child molesters than them listening to shitty pop songs. I have only briefly looked at the paterno/sandusky thread, but I got the impression that the whole point of the exercise on **SA** ’s part was to illustrate that it could not have happened because, angles or something. So, he might be somewhat safe around children (just him), because, having his head up his ass all the time (can we illustrate that with, say, a cantaloupe?), there is a limit to the amount of damage he can actually do. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/236 "2018-03-27T02:07:30Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > You’re assuming that Melania was still sleeping with him at that point - get the heir, shut him down? > > Also, my understanding is that porn performers get tested a lot, so maybe possibly be one of the safer choices for unprotected sex. I think the likelihood of him having something is far more likely than her. Adnanced syptoms of syphilis include patchy hair loss, dementia, and brain damage… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/237 "2018-03-27T02:09:01Z")
The best thing I can say about **Starving Artist** and other such conservatives is that they’ll be dead soon. Old age, being forced to choose between their meds and food, and lack of quality insurance will all combine to phase out the Baby Boomers, and then we can begin actually making this country great again. It only stopped being great when the deplorable voters got their way. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/238 "2018-03-27T02:21:32Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The best thing I can say about **Starving Artist** and other such conservatives is that they’ll be dead soon. Old age, being forced to choose between their meds and food, and lack of quality insurance will all combine to phase out the Baby Boomers, and then we can begin actually making this country great again. > > It only stopped being great when the deplorable voters got their way. I could be miles wrong on this, but isn’t the vast majority of breitbarters (and by extension, the majority of alt-right trolls on the internet) under 35? The dressage (?) looked a little top heavy, but I’m not complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/239 "2018-03-27T02:21:55Z")
My father is absolutely convinced that Barron’s father is actually one of Trump’s older sons. As much as I loathe Trump, I think that’s a little out there. (And my dad’s not given to conspiracy theories, which is what makes it so odd) ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183/240 "2018-03-27T02:27:21Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > LOL. Have you met Trump’s base? If Trump said grass was orange they’d believe it. Bullshit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-stormy-daniels-interview-was-a-bust/811183.md?page=13)