# That wasn't "theadshitting" Marely23 **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 22, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476 "2013-09-22T22:57:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/1 "2013-09-22T22:57:25Z")
It was pointing out the obvious. > [@The AR-15 and the Navy Yard shooting](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ar-15-and-the-navy-yard-shooting/669443/51): > > I never thought about what weapon he used, or cared. Just another gun in a nation drowning in them. > > This is an obvious anti-gun control thread, so the answer to that is:\* “He didn’t have an AR-15, therefore all gun control is evil, guns are good and holy and everyone should have them at all times. Except left wingers, homosexuals, blacks and other undesirables, who should be shot.”\* > [@The AR-15 and the Navy Yard shooting](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ar-15-and-the-navy-yard-shooting/669443/58): > > This is threadshitting, **Der Trihs** - very obnoxious threadshitting even compared to some of your other work. I’m giving you a warning for this one. My only real mistake was in not waiting for the thread to go on for a dozen pages with **Bricker** bobbing and weaving and evading issues as always. It’s not like we haven’t had hundreds of gun threads before; we all know how the pro-gun side feels. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/2 "2013-09-22T23:07:21Z")
This is obvious: > [@DT](#): > > … Except left wingers, homosexuals, blacks and other undesirables, who should be shot. To whom? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/3 "2013-09-22T23:07:24Z")
I’m not sure I need to say anything here. The stuff about killing black people and gays was so far off topic I could have just as easily called it trolling. You really need to try to stick to the subject of whatever threads you participate in. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/4 "2013-09-22T23:19:25Z")
Excellent modding, **Marley**. Absolutely correct. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/5 "2013-09-22T23:35:40Z")
All he lacked was a boat and a fishing rig. For all we know, he had both while posting. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/6 "2013-09-23T01:05:31Z")
_applauds Marley_ ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/7 "2013-09-23T01:22:29Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It was pointing out the obvious. You’re under the impression that it’s “obvious” that the posters on this thread who oppose gun control want “homosexuals, blacks, and other undesirables” to be murdered? Respectfully, I don’t see how any reasonable person could believe that about most much less all. > [@](#): > > **Der Trihs** > My only real mistake was in not waiting for the thread to go on for a dozen pages with Bricker bobbing and weaving and evading issues as always. Hmm… since you seem to be singling out Bricker among the pro-gun crowd you seem to be suggesting that it should be “obvious” to all of us that he wants “left-wingers, homosexuals, blacks, and other undesirables” to be murdered. I don’t despise him the way others do, but I don’t have particularly warm feelings for him, and I’ve never seen him post anything that would cause anyone with a functioning brain to believe that your above suggestion about him is remotely accurate. Were I you, I’d apologize to him or declare that when you claimed you thought the anti-gun control crowd wants left-wingers, gays, and blacks murdered you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/8 "2013-09-23T02:13:52Z")
It’s about freaking time. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/9 "2013-09-23T02:52:35Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > You’re under the impression that it’s “obvious” that the posters on this thread who oppose gun control want “homosexuals, blacks, and other undesirables” to be murdered? … > Were I you, I’d apologize to him or declare that when you claimed you thought the anti-gun control crowd wants left-wingers, gays, and blacks murdered you were wrong. Basically yeah. If Der had written, “Except [del]left wingers, homosexuals, blacks and other[/del] certain undesirables, who should be shot,” he could have made a claim that was [capable](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16360525&postcount=21) of being [substantiated](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14596565&postcount=4). But among a sliver of American far-right modern conservatives the tendency is to [apologize for tyrannical brutality](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14574533&postcount=62), not advocate it directly. It will be interesting to see whether an entirely appropriate apology is forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/10 "2013-09-23T02:54:02Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The stuff about killing black people and gays was so far off topic I could have just as easily called it trolling. Well, like James Bond says, it’s much easier after the first time. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/11 "2013-09-23T03:08:20Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > It will be interesting to see whether an entirely appropriate apology is forthcoming. It will be interesting to see if the OP ever returns to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/12 "2013-09-23T08:39:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The stuff about killing black people and gays was so far off topic I could have just as easily called it trolling. Hardly, considering that the American right loves seeing them dead. Including the gun nuts. We saw that just recently with the whole Zimmerman/Martin debacle, when even on this board posters could barely restrain themselves from admitting they wanted guns so they could kill off the “subhuman” blacks. And some _failed_ to restrain themselves; **Lonesome Polecat** got banned over that as I recall. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/13 "2013-09-23T09:01:04Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Hardly, considering that the American right loves seeing them dead. Including the gun nuts. We saw that just recently with the whole Zimmerman/Martin debacle, when even on this board posters could barely restrain themselves from admitting they wanted guns so they could kill off the “subhuman” blacks. And some _failed_ to restrain themselves; **Lonesome Polecat** got banned over that as I recall. Since you put the word in quotation marks, would you mind directing us to the post or posts where someone here referred to blacks as “subhuman”? 'Cause I’m having a bit of trouble believing that wouldn’t have gotten at least a Warning as well. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/14 "2013-09-23T10:01:27Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Since you put the word in quotation marks, would you mind directing us to the post or posts where someone here referred to blacks as “subhuman”? 'Cause I’m having a bit of trouble believing that wouldn’t have gotten at least a Warning as well. All of his posts indicate that he reads what he wants to read to substantiate whatever fantasy he’s manage to delude himself into. I’m pretty sure he actually believes what he writes, and so I doubt he’d bother to look for something that would contradict the world he’s created, it would create too much cognitive dissonance, and the subconscious brain is really good at subtly manipulating a person to prevent that from happening. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/15 "2013-09-23T10:28:18Z")
I live in England, where there are strict gun controls (e.g. you can’t have a gun for home defence) and the police on the beat are not armed. And I’m happy with all that. Although my politics are different from Brickers, I find his posts calm and well-researched. It is very embarrassing for me to read Der Trihs’ highly exaggerated unsubstantiated ramblings. Marley23 was correct. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/16 "2013-09-23T10:48:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Hardly, considering that the American right loves seeing them dead. Including the gun nuts. We saw that just recently with the whole Zimmerman/Martin debacle, when even on this board posters could barely restrain themselves from admitting they wanted guns so they could kill off the “subhuman” blacks. And some _failed_ to restrain themselves; **Lonesome Polecat** got banned over that as I recall. This is ATMB. You are not helping your OP by bringing the political points over. And c’mon man, you’ve been here just long as I have. You know that. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/17 "2013-09-23T11:30:27Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > All of his posts indicate that he reads what he wants to read to substantiate whatever fantasy he’s manage to delude himself into. I’m pretty sure he actually believes what he writes, and so I doubt he’d bother to look for something that would contradict the world he’s created, it would create too much cognitive dissonance, and the subconscious brain is really good at subtly manipulating a person to prevent that from happening. Yes, as a matter of fact after posting I searched back six months and while I found 46 posts where the term “subhuman” was used, the mention that most stood out in relation to the Zimmerman/Martin case was by **Der Trihs** himself, again apparently putting the word in other posters’ mouths. Maybe I didn’t go back far enough. In any event, probably doesn’t matter. What on earth would Zimmerman/Martin have to do with a discussion on press reporting of the type of weapon used by the PHL Navy Yard Shooter, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/18 "2013-09-23T12:18:34Z")
I thought **Der Trihs** got to post inflammatory hijacks as long as he only did so once per thread. To be fair, if it changed, the first time should be a Mod Note or something. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/19 "2013-09-23T13:26:21Z")
I only mildly oppose gun control, does this mean I only want some of said groups eliminated? Or does that mean I just don’t care one way or another if they are eliminated? ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476/20 "2013-09-23T13:37:20Z")
Der Trihs is more or less accurately representing [LonesomePolecat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16471025&postcount=113)’s posts in the Zimmerman thread, and Polecat was banned. Attributing those sentiments to anyone else doesn’t seem supportable to me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-wasnt-theadshitting-marely23/669476.md?page=2)