# That will teach you not to hit my SUV with a golf ball **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603 "2004-12-07T19:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/41 "2004-12-08T23:21:06Z")
> [@manhattan](#): > > Ah, but the young men were playing with a _golf ball_, the very symbol of right-wing bourgeois repression. > > What will you do? What will you do? I think this just illustrates the coming split between more centrist Republicans and NeoCons. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/42 "2004-12-09T00:49:25Z")
Why is she being charged with three counts of attempted murder? There were only two kids. Am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/43 "2004-12-09T00:53:32Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Moran Is this a misspelling or do you you think Ghanima is the actress who played Joanie on Happy Days? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/44 "2004-12-09T00:54:38Z")
> [@Chairman Pow](#): > > Why is she being charged with three counts of attempted murder? There were only two kids. > > Am I missing something? She went after the third kid, but he got out of the way in time. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/45 "2004-12-09T04:35:48Z")
> [@Chairman Pow](#): > > Why is she being charged with three counts of attempted murder? There were only two kids. > > Am I missing something? Here is a some quote from the article that you missed. > [@](#): > > She then allegedly went after a third brother, but did not hit him. A witness said that after the SUV came to rest, Allen got out of the car and smoked a cigarette with the boys lying on the ground in pain. Also see [this](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/06/national/main659379.shtml) article, which gives more detail. > [@](#): > > According to St. John’s County sheriff’s Deputy Greg Suchy, **Isiah Grayer, 14, and his 16-year-old twin stepbrothers, Justin and Jamel Marshman** , were bouncing the golf ball in a shopping center parking lot Sunday afternoon when it went astray and struck a sport utility vehicle driven by Kathy Feaganes Allen, 47. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/46 "2004-12-09T05:04:02Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > Here is a some quote from the article that you missed. :smack: I even read it twice to make sure I didn’t miss anything. :smack: :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/47 "2004-12-09T14:44:58Z")
Don’t worry, I found myself stopping at several points, not sure I’d be able to keep reading. Totally understandable if you missed something. Any word on the status of that child? ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/48 "2004-12-09T14:54:44Z")
> [@PaulFitzroy](#): > > What a cunt. Who? **Ghanima** or the woman in the SUV? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/49 "2004-12-09T15:10:16Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > Any word on the status of that child? He’s one under. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/50 "2004-12-09T19:34:40Z")
HEY! Knock that shit off right now! Make fun of the psycho bitch all you want, but don’t even start with that poor kid. Don’t make me stop this car and come back there! ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/51 "2004-12-09T20:32:25Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > He’s one under. And she’s two over… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/52 "2004-12-09T20:57:11Z")
[The victims’ family speaks](http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:aLstJDevzV8J:www.staugustine.com/stories/120704/new_2749560.shtml+%22isiah+grayer%22&hl=en): > [@](#): > > The St. Augustine Record (cached to avoid subscription hassles) > “All I could see was them hitting the car and then the ground … they looked like crash test dummies when they hit,” Jamel said. “That’s all that runs through my mind.” > > Jamel then ran to check on his brothers and go after the woman that hit them. > > “His eyes (Isiah’s) were just open. His eyes were looking sideways,” Jamel said. “It looked like his body was broken up.” > > Justin lay not far from Isiah. He tried to get up, but couldn’t. > > Justin said all he remembers is waking up in the grass. > > “I looked over and saw him (Isiah) shaking in the street,” he said, still wearing his hospital gown and peeling off his admittance bracelets. > > Pearson said the family’s in disbelief, but those feelings are turning to anger. > > The family said they believe Allen’s motive is race related. > > “We’re black and she was white,” Jamel said. “She thought we were throwing rocks at her.” > > Rebecca Lofton is the boys’ grandmother and said if she committed the crime, the circumstances would be much different. > > “They would hang my black ass,” she said. “That’s what needs to happen to her.” ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603/53 "2004-12-10T14:32:00Z")
Right on Rebecca, I’m with you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/that-will-teach-you-not-to-hit-my-suv-with-a-golf-ball/278603.md?page=2)